Good stuff. I have a pair of DTR550s. I don't use them very much, but they work pretty well. I keep hoping that they will make an updated version with Bluetooth some day, Then, they would be a great radio for ATVing with a wireless helmet system.
Good stuff. I have a pair of DTR550s. I don't use them very much, but they work pretty well. I keep hoping that they will make an updated version with Bluetooth some day, Then, they would be a great radio for ATVing with a wireless helmet system.
See the photo of the rear housing at this link. There is a label or cover at the top, that when removed reveals an hole that appears to line up with the test connector, I think the XPR7550 MotoTRbo radio has a similar scheme.
https://www.radioparts.com/motorola-pmln4948a
I agree that overcoming excessive cable loss with antenna gain is a losing proposition but.,,I think we might be overcomplicating the issue. I have tried multiple 900MHz antennas and found ALL of them had significantly shorter range than the stock 1/2-wave antenna. They were all making good connections, but at 900MHz, I concluded that the loss in the length of the cable easily exceeded the very minor gain from mounting it higher, on the roof of a vehicle. I made sure the cable run was exactly the right length for the frequency range, but they all behaved much worse.
Personally, I think the penetration capabilities of the 900MHz spectrum are just so good that an external antenna cannot perform better than the stock antenna.
While I would love to see a higher base station antenna that works well, I still see the loss in the cable length exceeds the gain from height.
But I am no means an expert here. I have just tried multiple external antennas for the DTRs that were all recommended for this application, and NONE of them work. If anyone finds one that works better, there are a lot of DTR enthusiasts who would love to know.
I think we might be overcomplicating the issue. I have tried multiple 900MHz antennas and found ALL of them had significantly shorter range than the stock 1/2-wave antenna. They were all making good connections, but at 900MHz, I concluded that the loss in the length of the cable easily exceeded the very minor gain from mounting it higher, on the roof of a vehicle. I made sure the cable run was exactly the right length for the frequency range, but they all behaved much worse.
From Motorola's test report said:7.1 RF Power -- Pursuant to 47 CFR 2.947(c)
Method of Conducted Output Power Measurement: Adaptation of TIA/EIA-603-A clause
2.2.1 for Pulsed Measurements
The RF output power is not adjustable by the user. The output power is controlled by the
radio software. To obtain RF output power reading, the radio was programmed to utilize
the maximum output power setting.
A special DC/RF test fixture was utilized to interface with the radio test RF connector
while simultaneously supplying the operating voltage of 4.0V. The radio RF connector is
utilized in all factory tuning and testing procedures, and provides a 50 ohm connection to
the transmitter path while disconnecting the radio antenna. All conducted measurements
were performed via this test port.
NOTE: This DC/RF test fixture in not offered for sale.
I've done this kind of transmitter testing in product development in my line of work (I'm an EMI/EMC Engineer).
The 4.0V supplied to the radio has nothing to do with the antenna. The 4.0V supplied to the radio is for powering the radio since the radio must transmit continuously during testing and the tests take some time. The 3.6V Li-ion battery pack would get depleted before all intentional radiator (transmitter) testing is complete. For example, transmitter frequency stability testing over extremes of ambient temperature (i.e, -20C to +40C) are done in a thermal chamber and this testing takes a few hours to complete. An unmodulated carrier is transmitted continuously for this test at the low, mid, and high channels and at full power. RF power measurements are done with modulation on the low, mid, and high channels in the band and done over the range of temperatures. All of this testing takes time to complete.
The stock antenna supplied with the DTR650 as it comes from the factory is a 1/4 wave 900MHz stubby duck. Many vendors switch it out for the longer 1/2 wave duck since it's a popular option. Since I my DTR650s were bought factory brand new, they came with the stock 1/4 wave antenna. The radios and batteries have a November 2016 build date and I got them in January 2017. I ordered the longer 1/2 wave antenna separately for them.
There is nothing special about the 1/4 wave and 1/2 wave antenna used on the DTR550 and DTR650. They are the exact same antennas used on a Motorola MTX9250 and other 900MHz Motorola radios.
Why the mobile antenna setups tried don't perform as well as the stock antenna on the DTR650 remains a mystery. It's probably so d@mn close to perfect that it's hard to beat.
Good luck.
I don't have the info in front of me but IIRC, the FCC ID for the DTR650 is AZ489FT5852. The other FCC ID (AZ489FT5842) is for the DTR410? The 410 is a Gen1 unit and the 550 and 650 are newer Gen2 units, IIRC.