Essex County NY need help

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looking for new public safety frequencies
i know some are 4690.0000 and unscannable but looking for the latest public safety fequencies fir elizabethtown/lewis, new russia, and port henry
Someone told me its p25 phase 1 digital so i bought the pro 197 from RS and software. paid for subscription to RR and it seems the frequencies just dont work... have tried essex county new yorks public safety frequencies from the RR page but they are old out of date... any help would be much appreciated

 

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The frequencies on this site for Essex County are 100% accurate.

 

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ok sorry. just programmed but cant get anywhere and didn the whole import for RR through the arc 500 software... i didnt know if the digital and narrowband was imposed already,,, and i have been picking up alot of fax modem sounding stuff but i cant get a system id off of it

and thanks for confirming the accuracy of the site... might need a new coax or something

 

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No digital or narrowband yet. If you live in Keene Valley you live in a bad spot to pick up a lot of the radio communications around the county. You are in a huge valley surrounded by the Adirondack Mountains. You are truly in the heart of the Adirondacks and a very beautiful area - gods country!

I would suggest you use really good coax (LMR 400) and get a really good wide band scanner antenna and mount it as high as possible. Make sure you have all the PL tones programmed in with the frequencies or you will pick up all kinds of interference and also make sure you program in all the New York State Police Troop B frequencies - you will hear most of your traffic on these frequencies.

You should also program all of the New York State ENCON, Forest Rangers and DOT frequencies. County dispatch on 46.46, 46.32 and 46.22 and the Sheriff's on 156.210 PL114.8. I would also program County Highway and your local highway department.

Good luck and have fun!

ok sorry. just programmed but cant get anywhere and didn the whole import for RR through the arc 500 software... i didnt know if the digital and narrowband was imposed already,,, and i have been picking up alot of fax modem sounding stuff but i cant get a system id off of it

and thanks for confirming the accuracy of the site... might need a new coax or something

 

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ok thanks so much and also its the 75.00 rs ant i have... lots of interference and i think it more coax then anything... thanks a bunch for the help

 

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Shortened coax to about 11 ft from antenna to scanner and its been going crazy ever since.,... is there anyplace around the essex county area to buy lmr-400 coax... and what would you recommend? 50 or 75 ohm coax?

 

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What type of Radio Shack antenna is that? Is it the discone?

What type of coax do you have and how long is the run?

ok thanks so much and also its the 75.00 rs ant i have... lots of interference and i think it more coax then anything... thanks a bunch for the help

 

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I would recommend 50 ohm coax. No place around Essex County that I know of unless you contact one of the radio shops like Wells Communications and Champlain Communications in Plattsburgh. I always order my stuff online. Did you program in all the state frequencies?

Shortened coax to about 11 ft from antenna to scanner and its been going crazy ever since.,... is there anyplace around the essex county area to buy lmr-400 coax... and what would you recommend? 50 or 75 ohm coax?

 

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I programmed everything i can find in... also able to track clinton county's 800mhz system here in keene valley... about 48 or so miles... and yes it is the discone ant...
unfortunately coax is just some flimsy rg6 so yea coax seems to be my problem im sure now.... i live in a mobile home../ aluminum trailer and the only place to mount the discone is about the roof of trailer about 3 ft which probly is screwinf with my reception... but last eve and tonight it has been going nonstop with action... just cant pick up dispatch 46.32 or other local stations.... seems to have alot of noise between 45-47 mhz where all ems and what not is.... hope when they bring in the new system it will work better then current.... i heard Ray Brook asking the local sherrif 5 times to repeat or contact by cell...

 

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If you live anywhere near the phone company switch house or the building with all the satellite dishes you will have a real hard time picking up any low band with out a decent low band antenna. The Verizon phone system in our area is extremely old and falling apart. The lines (especially around switch houses) emit all kinds of interference, especially around 46.32 that sometimes make communications nearly impossible. This is one reason why the county is switching to high band.

That is great that you can pick up Clinton County! The Forest Rangers are extremely active in your area and use all of their frequencies especially when doing rescues in the mountains. Also make sure you have National Grid and NYSEG programmed in.

Good luck..

I programmed everything i can find in... also able to track clinton county's 800mhz system here in keene valley... about 48 or so miles... and yes it is the discone ant...
unfortunately coax is just some flimsy rg6 so yea coax seems to be my problem im sure now.... i live in a mobile home../ aluminum trailer and the only place to mount the discone is about the roof of trailer about 3 ft which probly is screwinf with my reception... but last eve and tonight it has been going nonstop with action... just cant pick up dispatch 46.32 or other local stations.... seems to have alot of noise between 45-47 mhz where all ems and what not is.... hope when they bring in the new system it will work better then current.... i heard Ray Brook asking the local sherrif 5 times to repeat or contact by cell...

 

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ok cant find the essex county NYSEG system just not listed unless i have to use the keeseville 1 but i dont pick anything up on thier p25 system when i import it from RR using win500.... not sure of what nyseg zone to program in... can you possibly help?
also notice state troopers to use 159.435 and 159.225 quite often ...
thanks fopr the help you have given to me and hopefully i can figure out nyseg and national grid

 

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ok cant find the essex county NYSEG system just not listed unless i have to use the keeseville 1 but i dont pick anything up on thier p25 system when i import it from RR using win500.... not sure of what nyseg zone to program in... can you possibly help?
also notice state troopers to use 159.435 and 159.225 quite often ...
thanks fopr the help you have given to me and hopefully i can figure out nyseg and national grid

oh yea also picked up something in 860mhz area that came up DG on my scanner for digital but sounded scrambled and havent been able to catch frequency to write it down but sounded like emergency communications from etown community hosp to moses ludington or cvph all three were mentioned and i believe it was a patient transport then it went scrambled/garbled and lost signal on me

 

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also wondering if troop b in Lewis headquarters have a new frequency as i dont pick anything up from them and online scanner feed on RR i hear stuff from lewis and cant get it... also went to my dads house in new russia and still can not recieve lewis communications and telco is aprox 1/2 mile away from home so that explains the 46.32 interference... and across from verizon switch is keene valley video and internet services with all the sat dishes...

 

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NYSEG is still low band up here. They are slowly working on their P25 system but probably will not be online for a few years. NYSEGs frequencies are: 48.32 DPL 025, 48.22 DPL 024, 48.04 DPL 025.

The State Troopers do not use 159.435 and 159.225. The New York State Forest Rangers use 159.435 and the New York State Environmental Conservation Law Enforcement Officers use 159.225.

National Grid uses 151.235 PL 114.8.

Don't forget NYSDOT - 47.36 PL 156.7, 47.40 PL 173.8. County Highway - 45.68 PL 114.8, 45.72 PL 114.8.

ok cant find the essex county NYSEG system just not listed unless i have to use the keeseville 1 but i dont pick anything up on thier p25 system when i import it from RR using win500.... not sure of what nyseg zone to program in... can you possibly help?
also notice state troopers to use 159.435 and 159.225 quite often ...
thanks fopr the help you have given to me and hopefully i can figure out nyseg and national grid

 

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Interesting. I work with a lot of EMS, Police and Fire agencies and there is no 800Mhz in this area. May have been something from Clinton County?

oh yea also picked up something in 860mhz area that came up DG on my scanner for digital but sounded scrambled and havent been able to catch frequency to write it down but sounded like emergency communications from etown community hosp to moses ludington or cvph all three were mentioned and i believe it was a patient transport then it went scrambled/garbled and lost signal on me

 

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Lewis uses the exact same mountain top transmitters and frequencies that Raybrook does. You may not be able to pick up some of the distant mountain top transmitters that Lewis uses.. Belfry, Schroon, Gore, Black, etc...

NYSP Troop B

NYSP F-1 Troop Base to Car 154.905 167.9
NYSP F-1 Troop Car to Base 155.595 110.9 & 167.9
NYSP F-2 car to car 154.665 110.9
NYSP F-3 base to base 154.695
NYSP F-4 BCI Tactical 155.565 79.7
NYSP F-4 Tactical 155.565 110.9 & 103.5
NYSP F-5 Intersystem 155.370 multi
NYSP F-6 NYSPERN 155.475 156.7

also wondering if troop b in Lewis headquarters have a new frequency as i dont pick anything up from them and online scanner feed on RR i hear stuff from lewis and cant get it... also went to my dads house in new russia and still can not recieve lewis communications and telco is aprox 1/2 mile away from home so that explains the 46.32 interference... and across from verizon switch is keene valley video and internet services with all the sat dishes...

 

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Interesting. I work with a lot of EMS, Police and Fire agencies and there is no 800Mhz in this area. May have been something from Clinton County?

Yea i am also picking up on limit search all the way to granville whitehall and glennsfalls... also alot of law enforcement on 155.725

 

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Gore Mountain has a clear shot into Keene Valley. A lot of agencies down south use Gore Mountain. 155.725 is Warren County Sheriff's which is also on Gore Mountain.

Yea i am also picking up on limit search all the way to granville whitehall and glennsfalls... also alot of law enforcement on 155.725

 

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also recieving some kind of data channel on mot vhf 3600bd no sys id tho or voice
loud and clear but no sysid... and CCDump has no info on the system

157.740000
158.610000
159.630000
156.570000
158.685000
154.520000
155.745000
154.515000
152.515000
154.750000

here is a quick example of the CCDump file
10:05:41.15:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:08, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:05:45.77:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:05:50.51:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:05:57.11:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:06, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:05:59.96:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:08, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:04.53:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:06, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:07.33:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:08, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:11.95:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:14.75:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:02, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:17.59:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:06, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:20.36:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:08, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:25.01:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:27.83:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:02, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:30.61:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:06, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:36.74:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:39.47:M36:T001F:31E 1 03E1:Err

10:06:44.19:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:46.97:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:02, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:06:55.25:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:02, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:07:00.84:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:07:05.53:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:07:08.35:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:06, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:07:13.09:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:01, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:07:15.89:M36:T001F:Q:00, CCi:02, CCf: 0.000000, Th:N, Df:N, Qh:00, Qi:256

10:07:17.97:M36:T001F:387 0 97E7:Err

 

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