FCC mandating P-25?

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County to start major emergency technology upgrade

Crawford County is starting a multi-year, multimillion-dollar upgrade of the emergency communications system within the county to be compliant with new technology.

www.meadvilletribune.com

There’s no federal mandate as yet regarding a deadline to switch over to a P25-ready system, but one is expected as counties across Pennsylvania and the country have been doing preparations or already meet P25 standards, according to Beveridge and county commissioners.

“There is no way around it — it is not an option,” Eric Henry, chairman of the commissioners, said last week. “It’s only a matter of when the federal government says you must do it. They’ll give you a five-year window.

 

[mmckenna]

It's on the internet, it must be true.

 

[jhooten]

It's on the internet, it must be true.

Where have I heard that before?

 

[mmckenna]

Where have I heard that before?

Probably this very site.

Waiting for someone to start yelling about how Uniden knew this yet still sold them NXDN and DMR upgrades….

 

[jhooten]

Probably this very site.

Waiting for someone to start yelling about how Uniden knew this yet still sold them NXDN and DMR upgrades….

Look at my sig.

 

[a417]

Waiting for someone to start yelling about how Uniden knew this yet still sold them NXDN and DMR upgrades….

Sold them the upgrades then took down the my.uniden.com website, you mean.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

County to start major emergency technology upgrade

Crawford County is starting a multi-year, multimillion-dollar upgrade of the emergency communications system within the county to be compliant with new technology.

www.meadvilletribune.com

There’s no federal mandate as yet regarding a deadline to switch over to a P25-ready system, but one is expected as counties across Pennsylvania and the country have been doing preparations or already meet P25 standards, according to Beveridge and county commissioners.

“There is no way around it — it is not an option,” Eric Henry, chairman of the commissioners, said last week. “It’s only a matter of when the federal government says you must do it. They’ll give you a five-year window.

Yeah; I have seen that "Federal Mandate" argument used to persuade commissioners before. Amazing what the power of suggestion can accomplish. There is no federal mandate to narrow band 800 MHz, there is no federal mandate to employ P25 in any form. But many /\/\illions have been made using only the power of suggestion.

 

[N4DES]

If there is DHS grant money attached there would be a P25 requirement, but there is no requirement that the agency must use it for their day-to-day operations and subscribers just have to be purchased with the capability. 700 MHz public safety spectrum is the only area mandated for P25 by the FCC, so if the agency isn't going there then there also isn't a requirement to use it, but if they are then there is a requirement by the FCC.

Approved Grant Eligible Equipment | Homeland Security

Equipment suppliers participating in the voluntary P25 CAP must submit test and compliance documents (Supplier's Declaration of Compliance [SDOC] and Summary Test Report [STR] documents) for DHS review and approval.

www.dhs.gov

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

The DHS grant money will never close the gap to pay for a P25 system versus analog. An agency can still opt out of P25 and fund the system themselves, for less money. They may have to seek a different vendor however.

 

[N4DES]

The DHS grant money will never close the gap to pay for a P25 system versus analog. An agency can still opt out of P25 and fund the system themselves, for less money. They may have to seek a different vendor however.

The grant money is typically for subscribers, which when rolling out a new infrastructure and purchased together could eat upwards of 50% of the total cost for an agency. So yes it could close the gap with a good grant writer.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

The grant money is typically for subscribers, which when rolling out a new infrastructure and purchased together could eat upwards of 50% of the total cost for an agency. So yes it could close the gap with a good grant writer.

A lot of if, ands and buts in that assertion.

 

[N4DES]

They are still out there....

List of Federal Financial Assistance Programs Funding Emergency Communications | CISA

This list identifies federal financial assistance programs (i.e., grants, loans, cooperative agreements) that support emergency communications investments. Periodic updates will be posted on this page as new programs are announced.

www.cisa.gov

North Branford Fire Department Awarded $510,750 FEMA Grant for p25-Compliant Portable Radios

August, 12, 2020: The North Branford Fire Department (NBFD) has been notified by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) that it will be receiving $510,750.05 on behalf of the Department of Hom...

www.zip06.com

But let's not get off-topic.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

The DHS grant money will never close the gap to pay for a P25 system versus analog. An agency can still opt out of P25 and fund the system themselves, for less money. They may have to seek a different vendor however.

N4DES. I think you may have misread my comment. I was speaking of grant money covering the differential of an entire system. Not just subscribers. I have in past done a number of budgetary analysis of both options, tens of millions, simulcast, and the grant monies never closed the P25 gap. On topic? Perhaps, because if it were a federal mandate, it would be unfunded.

 

[TampaTyron]

I have put in several public safety DMR systems in 800 for a major DMR manufacturer. No such P25 requirement exists today or that I can see on the horizon. TT

 

[ai8o]

Yeah; I have seen that "Federal Mandate" argument used to persuade commissioners before. Amazing what the power of suggestion can accomplish. There is no federal mandate to narrow band 800 MHz, there is no federal mandate to employ P25 in any form. But many /\/\illions have been made using only the power of suggestion.

This is what happens when you have NON technical people County commissioners)making decisions about technical matters.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

Salesmen run amok!