n5ims
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With it? Probably not. Because of it? Perhaps (but only during the ride to the jail where you could listen in to the transporting officer's radio).
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First APX 8000 to hit eBay ?!?!?
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With it? Probably not. Because of it? Perhaps (but only during the ride to the jail where you could listen in to the transporting officer's radio).
Someone mentioned $5000 for the APX8000. That is the cost if you just have two bands enabled and no P25. If you have all three bands enabled along with P25 you're looking at closer to $7500 per radio. Yes, we priced them out...
and what about encryption? AES
Unless you are a GOVERNMENT AGENCY you can not buy the RADIO then you are going to have to have a SYSTEM OWNER sign a letter for the AES. Are the little black SUV's parked infront of your house yet.
No sign off for aes. All apx 7000 have it cheap on ebay.
Programmimg them is hard without fpp
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Really? Black SUVs? It's not really that serious. Yes, you can buy an APX-8000 on ebay if it becomes available. Yes, you can use AES and DES encryption if it's loaded into the radio. Yes, you can put your agency in the radio. You're only limitation would be system key and encryption key access, which the latter is nearly impossible to obtain if you're not official. Good luck, though!
Yeah, the last few 7K XE's I bought came in at around $5800-ish each.
Proof please?
mikegilbert
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Please put the pipe down and remove the tin foil. :roll:
I have the super secret surveillance accessory. Better call the feds, buddy.
But wait, there's more!
phillydjdan
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But sir! All those radios are illegal! You can't own those, you're not an FBI agent!
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Well as far as a APX8000 goes I ask a Motorola shop and was told the what I typed. It would have to billed to the Government Agency I work for and as far as AES I would need a letter from the SYSTEM KEY holder and that was from a Motorola Dealer and not one of the little RADIUS Shops. Thats all I have to go on. By the way nice collection of radios.
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This isn't the first time you've spouted off misinformation. Anyone can buy an APX 8000, in fact there is a dealer selling a 7000 and 6500 on another site with AES. You don't have to have a Government Agency account to get one. You can have AES in anything you want. Simply having AES doesn't mean you can now listen to the encrypted comms, you'll have to have the keys loaded and not anyone can do it...the agency can.
Stop posting misinformation.
Please put the pipe down and remove the tin foil. :roll:
I have the super secret surveillance accessory. Better call the feds, buddy.
But wait, there's more!
You are sooooo busted!!
ElroyJetson
Getting tired of all the stupidity.
It's Motorola's POLICY that says no APX 8000 sales to non-governmental agencies.
It's not any LAW that says that. Just Moto policy.
if you want an example of a radio where there IS a law that says that you as a civilian can't own it,
then that would be any radio with any form of Type 1 encryption in it. Encryptions bearing such names
as SAVILLE, PADSTONE, BATON, FIREFLY, SKIPJACK, GOODSPEED, etc...
Those, you can't have. If you are in posession of equipment containing such encryption technologies, you MIGHT be able to get a letter of authorization from the State Department to have it, but if not,
you'd be better off to wipe the radio clean of fingerprints, toss it in a box, and leave it at the doorstep of your local FBI office or drop it off at the front gate of a local military installation. (In that case, don't seal the box or they'll bomb squad it.)
It's not any LAW that says that. Just Moto policy.
if you want an example of a radio where there IS a law that says that you as a civilian can't own it,
then that would be any radio with any form of Type 1 encryption in it. Encryptions bearing such names
as SAVILLE, PADSTONE, BATON, FIREFLY, SKIPJACK, GOODSPEED, etc...
Those, you can't have. If you are in posession of equipment containing such encryption technologies, you MIGHT be able to get a letter of authorization from the State Department to have it, but if not,
you'd be better off to wipe the radio clean of fingerprints, toss it in a box, and leave it at the doorstep of your local FBI office or drop it off at the front gate of a local military installation. (In that case, don't seal the box or they'll bomb squad it.)
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See, the problem here isn't that he's writing bad info on this forum, it's the fact that the dealers are spouting off this kind of crap (probably to generate more business for them or maybe because they have a fear of God that some kid will start messing with systems. While it may be a policy that Moto doesn't sell to non gov people, there is NOTHING stopping a gov person from reselling them to non gov people. The FBI and FCC aren't gonna show up at your door for buying a radio. You have to do something bigger than that (like spout off racist comments to jail guards on an illegally programmed radio like a member of these forums has done) before the feds will take notice.
Bottom line: if you see an APX 8000 on ebay, do your homework and make sure it's not a scam or empty case, then buy it and enjoy it. If I had that kind of cashflow I would!
Bottom line: if you see an APX 8000 on ebay, do your homework and make sure it's not a scam or empty case, then buy it and enjoy it. If I had that kind of cashflow I would!
You are correct Dan what I was told by the local Motorola Dealer that the City I work for can order the APX8000 they can pay for it then I can write a check to my City and I can own a APX8000. If I want a APX7000 all I have to do is go to the dealers shop order the APX7000 and pay for it. It has been stated by others here that Motorola had the Cities sign a contract to not sell used or spare radios to the public.
Sorry but I am posting info from my dealer.
FFPM571
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Not all dealers know Motorola's policies some make them up as they go to keep the whackers and wanna be's away..
Dang nice collection of radios! Just have them as part of the hobby or are they for work? Great setup.
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