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Flexible multi conductor cable

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I’m always building cables to connect equipment and often use CAT because it’s common. What I really want is a very flexible easy handling 8 conductor or more with at least 1 shielded pair. Any recommendations? Smaller is better.
 

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I too shy away from CAT cable for things like interconnect cabling. Prefer stranded every time.

This is what I bought last time and it works well.


However I see now they only sell 1000 ft spools. I think I got 250 back then. They do have a big selection though and maybe you can use the manufacturers numbers to Google a more reasonable length.
 

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Thanks. Good starting place for sure. I was wondering what companies use for non-coiled mic cord—probably only 6 conductor which would be enough half the time.
 

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For a mic extension basically 3 conductor (mic, ptt, and ground). Some mics only 2. Should have a shield though. If you have separate grounds, accessory buttons, hook line, or whatever will add to the count.

So to hang an optional device off of a radio here would be a minimal count:
Power to the device
Transmit audio
PTT
Receive audio
COR
Overall ground
Overall shield or at least the mic line.

I count 7 fingers. Funny but Motorola used to sell 7 conductor "Deskset Cable". Covered a lot of bases. Any self respecting radio gear head should have a hank of this cable stashed under the bench.

The real answer is buy what you need.
 
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For a mic extension basically 3 conductor (mic, ptt, and ground). Some mics only 2. Should have a shield though. If you have separate grounds, accessory buttons, hook line, or whatever will add to the count.

So to hang an optional device off of a radio here would be a minimal count:
Power to the device
Transmit audio
PTT
Receive audio
COR
Overall ground
Overall shield or at least the mic line.

I count 7 fingers. Funny but Motorola used to sell 7 conductor "Deskset Cable". Covered a lot of bases. Any self respecting radio gear head should have a hank of this cable stashed under the bench.

The real answer is buy what you need.
Your assessment of needs is about right. I don’t enjoy making cables but so often the only timely option. Soldering mini dins without melting everything is such a joy (need to fabricate a heat sink). The part I often need is shielded pair inside multi wire cable, not just shielding entire cable for times running data and audio in same cable. Twisted pairs sometimes works but actual shielding much better.
 

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I went ferreting for some shielded twisted pair cable for remote ATU control and tone remote control for radio.
Came up with some rather good stuff that does nicely.
I too shy away from CAT cable for things like interconnect cabling. Prefer stranded every time.

This is what I bought last time and it works well.


However I see now they only sell 1000 ft spools. I think I got 250 back then. They do have a big selection though and maybe you can use the manufacturers numbers to Google a more reasonable length.
Some good cable, a bit hard to work with. Find some custom length.
 

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Your assessment of needs is about right. I don’t enjoy making cables but so often the only timely option. Soldering mini dins without melting everything is such a joy (need to fabricate a heat sink). The part I often need is shielded pair inside multi wire cable, not just shielding entire cable for times running data and audio in same cable. Twisted pairs sometimes works but actual shielding much better.
You have to hunt for it but there is cable with shielded pairs in numbers within an outer shield and mylar strain relief.
Professional audio recording and mixer stuff.
 

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Not all category cable is made equal.

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If you found some S/FTP cable then the individual twisted pairs would be foiled separately from each other, and the overall cable is shielded as well. This should avoid both internal and alien crosstalk, at least this has been my experience in data networking with these sorts of cables.
 

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Is it stiff like most CAT?
If it were stranded and flexed like mic cable it would be great.
 

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Is it stiff like most CAT?
If it were stranded and flexed like mic cable it would be great.
If you buy a stranded cable for it, yes it is flexible to an extent.

Category cable is available both stranded and solid. Solid is used for permanent cable from the wall jack through the building to the patch panel at the rack, but stranded is used from the jack to the equipment.

You'd have to look up if a stranded cable is available with the foiled pairs. Or accept the reduction in quality transitioning at the end(s) where the flexibiliy is required provided that the long run with the foiled and shielded cable does enough for what's required.
 
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