Fox TV 5 NY Going offf Air over tiny antennas

[MTS2000des]

They can prohibit whatever they like but so far what Aereo is doing has held up in court. Just because you're some big huge corporation doesn't mean you can just make up your own rules and force people to abide by them. These corporations still have to abide by the law like everyone else and I find it funny that Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, Disney and a bunch of other networks are getting their overlitigious asses handed to them in court by a tiny little NY based startup. Bravo, Aereo. Bravo.

Ha ha ha, that's funny. these corporations don't have to play by the rules: they OWN the rulemakers, so they can change them as they see fit. Don't like it? Quit voting these turds in. Oh wait- they own the companies who write the software that runs our elections...have fun with that.

At one time in history, we did have some moderate impartiality at the FCC, FTC, and other Federal agencies that were SUPPOSED to protect the open market, and ensure for a level playing field- so small companies like Aereo could come up with a great idea, and innovate- and compete with the oligopolies of the broadcast and cable operators..

Wake up, it's 2013...now it's time for a commercial break from an HONEST cable operator (warning, TV-MA rating!):

The First Honest Cable Company - YouTube

 

[iamhere300]

I give up. I have a life to get back to.

RDALE is correct. A seperate antenna is their entire legal case, and they have shown pictures of their antenna "field", which looks like a large 18 inch rack mount panel, about 4 inches thick, with plexiglass and some sort of switching array.

It is not a difficult concept, in fact it is durn near genius thinking to come up with the solution they did.

Yes, in the old days, off the air pickup for cable companies was just an antenna hooked to a reciever, and take the signal from there - but strangely the medium has improved their technology over the years.

Many areas in the country had microwave companies that were built simply to take a off the air signal from for instance Buffalo NY, and backhaul it to many different cable companies through out multiple states. I own a number of towers that belonged to companies that did just that.

This is new. It has passed legal challenges. Move forward with us to new technologies.

 

[iamhere300]

What in the world is this? A dipole?

Aereo antenna — Tech News and Analysis

So 1000's of these little pitchforks crammed onto PC boards - inside a noisy data center, no less - is providing the perfect HDTV picture they're reselling?

I wonder if these antennas are actually connected to anything, or at best prove there's 1 antenna allocated per subscriber, which is their cornerstone argument.

Bet the "high-tech" laywers didn't get tour of the data center.

You really think that FOX attornies did not tour the data center, or check in discovery relationship between number of MULTI TENANT antennas and subscribers?

Whoop! There it is.... Straight from the PACER filing system.

April 20, 2012—Aereo produced an antenna board and allowed a several-hour
site inspection of the Aereo equipment and facility.

AND

Aereo produced an enormous volume of
material during the preliminary injunction phase (40,000 pages of documents plus its
entire software code).

 Aereo provided Plaintiffs with a specific list of repositories existing within
Aereo’s electronic systems, including descriptions of all email servers,
documents servers, development servers and other databases.
 March 22, 2012—the same day the protective order was entered— Aereo
produced its entire source code, which most directly illustrates how the Aereo
system functions, as well as other key technical documents such as hardware
schematics and drawings.
 March 28 –April 26, 2012—Aereo produced technical and schematic
documents, emails and document files from key custodians (Chet Kanojia-
CEO/Founder, Joe Lipowski-CTO, and Griffin Cherry-VP of User
Experience), subscriber information, marketing materials, and patent
applications.


And LOTS more. You can access it easily.

Case 1:12-cv-01540-AJN-HBP Document 137 Filed 02/06/13 Page 1 of 21

Facts. You got to love them. So what was the bet? Something tangible, or are you going to squirm out of it?

 

[iamhere300]

patents. Got to love them.

I tried to post the links, but for some reason patent office links don't work. Just go to google, scroll down from the bar to more, then pick patents.

Aereo and antenna will get you a list of them. Pick the ones that specifically say aereo.

Enough reading for anyone wanting to understand their system;

 

[quarterwave]

RDALE is correct. A seperate antenna is their entire legal case, and they have shown pictures of their antenna "field", which looks like a large 18 inch rack mount panel, about 4 inches thick, with plexiglass and some sort of switching array.

It is not a difficult concept, in fact it is durn near genius thinking to come up with the solution they did.

Yes, in the old days, off the air pickup for cable companies was just an antenna hooked to a reciever, and take the signal from there - but strangely the medium has improved their technology over the years.

Many areas in the country had microwave companies that were built simply to take a off the air signal from for instance Buffalo NY, and backhaul it to many different cable companies through out multiple states. I own a number of towers that belonged to companies that did just that.

This is new. It has passed legal challenges. Move forward with us to new technologies.

Whatever, enjoy the Koolaid. I am off this thread, it is insane.

 

[rdale]

Whatever, enjoy the Koolaid. I am off this thread, it is insane.

Denying the truth, especially when that denial is senseless, is insane.

 

[iamhere300]

Whatever, enjoy the Koolaid. I am off this thread, it is insane.

Yep. When people sorely lose a debate, this is often said.

Analog forever. Sums a lot up.

 

[iamhere300]

Wake up, it's 2013...now it's time for a commercial break from an HONEST cable operator (warning, TV-MA rating!):

The First Honest Cable Company - YouTube

Now thats funny!

 

[RadioDaze]

Isn't it a helluva lot of bandwidth to be serving up that much HD for only $12/month? Or is it painfully compressed?

 

[mlmummert]

Wake up, it's 2013...now it's time for a commercial break from an HONEST cable operator (warning, TV-MA rating!):

The First Honest Cable Company - YouTube

I loved this.


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[quarterwave]

It just doesn't make sense to argue with people that have no clue what they are really arguing. Hams are never wrong, I forgot.

 

[iamhere300]

It just doesn't make sense to argue with people that have no clue what they are really arguing. Hams are never wrong, I forgot.

Nice. Slam an entire bunch of people because YOU cannot see the truth.

But thanks for the reminder. I use my HAM ticket rarely, but I did get a notice to renew. I will have to get that done.

You see, HAM radio is but a small part of my knowledge and involvement in the radio industry, but it is nice to have from time to time.

 

[rdale]

Isn't it a helluva lot of bandwidth to be serving up that much HD for only $12/month? Or is it painfully compressed?

Bandwidth is incredibly cheap in large cities...

 

[zerg901]

Does this have any real scanner world significance?

Does this mean I can now sell my local PD's transmissions via the Internet without paying my local PD for the right to do so?

 

[eorange]

Facts. You got to love them. So what was the bet? Something tangible, or are you going to squirm out of it?

No need to get testy. It seems you believe what you read, which is OK. But I don't.

 

[rdale]

Does this have any real scanner world significance?

Nope. Seems more like a Tavern topic.

 

[quarterwave]

Nice. Slam an entire bunch of people because YOU cannot see the truth.

But thanks for the reminder. I use my HAM ticket rarely, but I did get a notice to renew. I will have to get that done.

You see, HAM radio is but a small part of my knowledge and involvement in the radio industry, but it is nice to have from time to time.

No it pertained to a couple of people exhibiting a certain behavior, everyone else sees that, so it hit where it was intended. It was a common thread among a couple of people arguing. If you want to believe what you want to believe, that's fine, I have no issue with that. Most of us here are simply weighing the published "facts", the obvious ones, and the what ifs...then there are about 2 people trying to argue with everyone else about it.

Everyone please have a fine day.

 

[rdale]

Most of us here are simply weighing the published "facts"

That they don't share a handful of common antennas.

the obvious ones

That if they shared common antennas they would be considered the same as a cable company and have to follow existing laws which would require payments to the networks.

and the what ifs

If they were lying about this, the legal system would have noticed that and stopped them or required payments. The legal system did not. So the "what ifs" consist of a few here who are apparently smarter than the developers, the lawyers, and the judge.

The answer to that "what if" is no.

 

[iamhere300]

That they don't share a handful of common antennas.



That if they shared common antennas they would be considered the same as a cable company and have to follow existing laws which would require payments to the networks.



If they were lying about this, the legal system would have noticed that and stopped them or required payments. The legal system did not. So the "what ifs" consist of a few here who are apparently smarter than the developers, the lawyers, and the judge.

The answer to that "what if" is no.

Common sense is not allowed in this thread, if you use it you will get an entire segment of people, ham radio enthuisists, insulted.