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chgomonitor
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Carma
Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association
30 years of Chicago area monitoring and over 1200 subscribers. There's no substitute for excellence.
http://www.carmachicago.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carmachicago
Happy Scanning! - Ted / CARMA
Despite what our detractors say, we are GOOD people. Everyone is welcome. CARMA supports the monitoring hobby and all aspects of public safety. Join us!
Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association
30 years of Chicago area monitoring and over 1200 subscribers. There's no substitute for excellence.
http://www.carmachicago.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carmachicago
Happy Scanning! - Ted / CARMA
Despite what our detractors say, we are GOOD people. Everyone is welcome. CARMA supports the monitoring hobby and all aspects of public safety. Join us!
FCVPI99
Member
CARMA is a great info source
I don’t sensor information like CARMA does though
and by no means im i saying carma is bad (there great they work there buts off to put togather a great info site)
im like the Chiss il see something, il take it, and make it better! but i still give credit where credit is due
i just don't like sensorship
I don’t sensor information like CARMA does though
and by no means im i saying carma is bad (there great they work there buts off to put togather a great info site)
im like the Chiss il see something, il take it, and make it better! but i still give credit where credit is due
i just don't like sensorship
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Its spelled CENSORSHIP...Brian
I applaud Rich and Ted and the other users of the CARMA board at Yahoo for their hard work. Sometimes Censorship is a necessary part of moderating a public safety related message board in a public area.
I used to be a member of another message board that every othe post is " hey did you hear that?" or " Quick go over and check that out" Thats not what this hobby is about or what we as listners need. That is how we as a group get a bad reputation of being a bunch of wanna-beas.
ALOT of what we hear is not really for the general public, sometimes its best if we keep it to ourselves..
I applaud Rich and Ted and the other users of the CARMA board at Yahoo for their hard work. Sometimes Censorship is a necessary part of moderating a public safety related message board in a public area.
I used to be a member of another message board that every othe post is " hey did you hear that?" or " Quick go over and check that out" Thats not what this hobby is about or what we as listners need. That is how we as a group get a bad reputation of being a bunch of wanna-beas.
ALOT of what we hear is not really for the general public, sometimes its best if we keep it to ourselves..
FCVPI99
Member
forgive me for my bad spelling
i understand what you are saying... although i think that everyone should know what the PD, FD, PW, hell every gov type system is doing
if they dont u get high and mighty people thinking they can do anything (mosty PD) i have heard it and seen it with my own eyes
i was on a ride along with Bartlett PD
we clocked a car doing 80 in a 35 we pulled him over and guess what no ticket no nothing just a have a nice day wana know why it was a cop
now if anyone else did that they go to jail
its kinda like who watches the watchers??
there are so many reasion why i think any info should be shared i cant list them all
that is why i started my group
i understand what you are saying... although i think that everyone should know what the PD, FD, PW, hell every gov type system is doing
if they dont u get high and mighty people thinking they can do anything (mosty PD) i have heard it and seen it with my own eyes
i was on a ride along with Bartlett PD
we clocked a car doing 80 in a 35 we pulled him over and guess what no ticket no nothing just a have a nice day wana know why it was a cop
now if anyone else did that they go to jail
its kinda like who watches the watchers??
there are so many reasion why i think any info should be shared i cant list them all
that is why i started my group
FCVPI99 said:
Ahhhh, so now the truth comes out !!! You have a bug up your behind in regards to law enforcement so you listen and want to know "everything" so maybe you can bust some cops to get even??? Based upon your previous postings on this board and other groups, and your horrendous spelling, your immaturity is finally beginning to rear it's ugly head. You're in this hobby for all the wrong reasons Brian. I'm not saying that every public servant is on the up-an-up, but it appears you have no love loss here. You're wondering why those of us with "inside knowledge" don't always put that information out, it's because of "lurkers" like you who want to take this information and use it for some sort of sinister intentions here. CARMA holds their NWCD information near and dear to them for the same reason I hold the Chicago stuff to me...the wrong inside knowledge in the wrong hands could be a disaster in the making. You want codes, beats etc. and they won't give it to you....good call CARMA!!!
FCVPI99
Member
werinshades said:
never asked them for that...
i have the info they just dont want people to know it so i started my own group
and its not that i hate cops like u say most of my friends are cops.....
plus there is to much lag time for carma if your gana run a group run a group updates are almost daily with my group
Ohh dispatch codes, beat maps, box cards and zoning maps .. woohoo ..
chgomonitor
Silent Key
Censorship
Again, we don't censor anything. The ONLY concession we've made to "homeland security" is that we don't condone or participate the distribution of MABAS box cards. We also don't engage in illegal activites, or support those who do. We DO have a specific topic - radio monitoring - and we try to stay centered on the topic at hand. Otherwise it just turns into info overload with unrelated nonsense. I mean "zoning maps" (?) - who cares? If you want them, get them from the village web site.
The last three people who asked me to get them box cards turned out to be suspected arsonists, and I turned them over to the authorities.
What I've learned is that are some people who simply cannot abide by ANY sorts of rules, policies or guidelines because they feel it's like a form of Nazism, or something. So be it, if that's how you want to live your life, good luck. It's gonna be a hard road. I think you'll find that EVERY club, group or social organization has SOME sort of rules by which they operate.
But good luck with the anarchy thing. Happy Scanning! - Ted
Again, we don't censor anything. The ONLY concession we've made to "homeland security" is that we don't condone or participate the distribution of MABAS box cards. We also don't engage in illegal activites, or support those who do. We DO have a specific topic - radio monitoring - and we try to stay centered on the topic at hand. Otherwise it just turns into info overload with unrelated nonsense. I mean "zoning maps" (?) - who cares? If you want them, get them from the village web site.
The last three people who asked me to get them box cards turned out to be suspected arsonists, and I turned them over to the authorities.
What I've learned is that are some people who simply cannot abide by ANY sorts of rules, policies or guidelines because they feel it's like a form of Nazism, or something. So be it, if that's how you want to live your life, good luck. It's gonna be a hard road. I think you'll find that EVERY club, group or social organization has SOME sort of rules by which they operate.
But good luck with the anarchy thing. Happy Scanning! - Ted
chgomonitor
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And every single scrap of Info we have on NWCD is in the profile, free for all. Too bad the enormous efforts people volunteer to produce and distribute this stuff, for love of the hobby, gets this kind of response in thanks. It's funny how Brian in one breath calls us Nazis and in the next says he has nothing against us. I suspect Brian has argued my case with his own statements better than I could have, so I'll shut up. Happy Scanning! - Ted / CARMA
FCVPI99
Member
the info is good your polices are bad
it all comes down to freedom of info. in a way
as of right now CARMA is saying you cant know this info about Scanning
in 50 years its you cant know anything
heck i have been told by a carma memeber that i cant give another person a owners manual in PDF
and about the zoning maps ther are high DPI maps of the towns (little better then hand drawing dont you think)
BTW your right the group is now wide open
then agian i wouldnt be surprised at all if you see the info from my yahoo group show up on CARMA heck who do u think type out the ducomm codes that they have........
it all comes down to freedom of info. in a way
as of right now CARMA is saying you cant know this info about Scanning
in 50 years its you cant know anything
heck i have been told by a carma memeber that i cant give another person a owners manual in PDF
and about the zoning maps ther are high DPI maps of the towns (little better then hand drawing dont you think)
BTW your right the group is now wide open
then agian i wouldnt be surprised at all if you see the info from my yahoo group show up on CARMA heck who do u think type out the ducomm codes that they have........
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chgomonitor
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Policies
No, no, no Brian! We don't say what people can or cannot know - we say there specific things which we AS A GROUP do or do not do. There is a HUGE difference. What you are engaging here in is pure hysterics and painting us with a very broad, totalitarian brush. It needs to stop. I feel we have pushed hard on the envelope over the years to maintain massive distribution of accurate, timely and on-topic local monitoring related information to our membership. It's really almost all we do. Nationally, every other local monitoring club or group I know of has MUCH tighter restrictions than our policies. Sorry, but to be stating we are are engaged in suppression of this information is a huge load of bull. It's really offensive, knock it off!
-Ted Moran / CARMA Board member
http://www.carmachicago.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carmachicago/
No, no, no Brian! We don't say what people can or cannot know - we say there specific things which we AS A GROUP do or do not do. There is a HUGE difference. What you are engaging here in is pure hysterics and painting us with a very broad, totalitarian brush. It needs to stop. I feel we have pushed hard on the envelope over the years to maintain massive distribution of accurate, timely and on-topic local monitoring related information to our membership. It's really almost all we do. Nationally, every other local monitoring club or group I know of has MUCH tighter restrictions than our policies. Sorry, but to be stating we are are engaged in suppression of this information is a huge load of bull. It's really offensive, knock it off!
-Ted Moran / CARMA Board member
http://www.carmachicago.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carmachicago/
FCVPI99 said:
chgomonitor
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CARMA List Policies
And I'm happy to post our e-mail list policies, which Brian apparently finds so constricting:
TOPIC: Discussion of the radio monitoring hobby in and around Chicago.
CARMA fully supports all aspects of public safety and law enforcement.
Persons engaged in criminal activity are not welcome here. All members
are solely responsible for the contents of their postings. We are an
information sharing organization.
New comers to the hobby and CARMA are hereby officially welcomed
and supported. Feel free to pose topic related questions to the list. We
are here to help you get more fun out of the hobby.
This list serves as an informational resource for the club. It's primary
purpose is to serve as the replacement for the club's previously
hand-written and published newsletters. This is not an open, public
forum or "soapbox". On-topic, accurate, timely and coherent contributions
are strongly encouraged. You should contribute your locally confirmed,
active frequencies and other directly related information.
LIST POLICIES:
1. Don't post anything in violation of the law, including copyrights.
2. Don't post anything off-topic.
3. No personal attacks, flames, etc. Contact a moderator instead.
4. Unless the post is of general interest send to the original poster and not the list.
5. Avoid excessive quoting in replies.
6. No spam (commercial advertising). Personal For-Sale ads are okay.
7. If you object to a post contact a moderator and never reply to the list.
8. Do not represent yourself as an official of this organization without the board's prior approval.
9. Avoid highly opinionated or political postings.
10. No obscene, offensive or adult content, sigs, links or e-mail addresses.
BEFORE ASKING FOR SPECIFIC FREQUENCY OR FIRE TONE INFORMATION PLEASE READ THIS:
PLEASE look in the Profiles (http://www.carmachicago.com/profiles) for the area in question BEFORE asking for info. If the information you seek is not there then go right ahead and ask the list. Chances are it is already there.
Same goes for Fire Tones. We have hundreds of sets of Fire Tones in the Fire Tones database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carmachicago/database?method=reportRows&tbl=22.
If you find something that is not covered in these resources please send that info to updates@carmachicago.com and we will add it there.
The CARMA Profiles have most of the accumulated knowledge of many CARMA members on all aspects of scanner listening, including Police, Fire and Local Government, as well as Aviation, railroads, Federal operations and more.
Our motto is:
"If it isn't there, we don't have it"
We believe it is vital that we do everything we can to promote the hobby
in a positive light to public safety officials, the media and the public.
All general Yahoo use policies are also in effect. As an anti-virus
measure, this server is configured not to relay files attached
to messages. To protect you from spam the membership list is not
available.
Under federal law you may not quote the detailed content of monitored
conversations. Never disclose details concerning active, ongoing law
enforcement investigations or surveillances. Due to current homeland
defense security concerns MABAS box card details are off-limits.
List moderators have the ultimate authority concerning all list activities.
Persons unable to comply with the above policies will be removed
from CARMA and the list. By subscribing you agree to comply with the
above list policies.
And I'm happy to post our e-mail list policies, which Brian apparently finds so constricting:
TOPIC: Discussion of the radio monitoring hobby in and around Chicago.
CARMA fully supports all aspects of public safety and law enforcement.
Persons engaged in criminal activity are not welcome here. All members
are solely responsible for the contents of their postings. We are an
information sharing organization.
New comers to the hobby and CARMA are hereby officially welcomed
and supported. Feel free to pose topic related questions to the list. We
are here to help you get more fun out of the hobby.
This list serves as an informational resource for the club. It's primary
purpose is to serve as the replacement for the club's previously
hand-written and published newsletters. This is not an open, public
forum or "soapbox". On-topic, accurate, timely and coherent contributions
are strongly encouraged. You should contribute your locally confirmed,
active frequencies and other directly related information.
LIST POLICIES:
1. Don't post anything in violation of the law, including copyrights.
2. Don't post anything off-topic.
3. No personal attacks, flames, etc. Contact a moderator instead.
4. Unless the post is of general interest send to the original poster and not the list.
5. Avoid excessive quoting in replies.
6. No spam (commercial advertising). Personal For-Sale ads are okay.
7. If you object to a post contact a moderator and never reply to the list.
8. Do not represent yourself as an official of this organization without the board's prior approval.
9. Avoid highly opinionated or political postings.
10. No obscene, offensive or adult content, sigs, links or e-mail addresses.
BEFORE ASKING FOR SPECIFIC FREQUENCY OR FIRE TONE INFORMATION PLEASE READ THIS:
PLEASE look in the Profiles (http://www.carmachicago.com/profiles) for the area in question BEFORE asking for info. If the information you seek is not there then go right ahead and ask the list. Chances are it is already there.
Same goes for Fire Tones. We have hundreds of sets of Fire Tones in the Fire Tones database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carmachicago/database?method=reportRows&tbl=22.
If you find something that is not covered in these resources please send that info to updates@carmachicago.com and we will add it there.
The CARMA Profiles have most of the accumulated knowledge of many CARMA members on all aspects of scanner listening, including Police, Fire and Local Government, as well as Aviation, railroads, Federal operations and more.
Our motto is:
"If it isn't there, we don't have it"
We believe it is vital that we do everything we can to promote the hobby
in a positive light to public safety officials, the media and the public.
All general Yahoo use policies are also in effect. As an anti-virus
measure, this server is configured not to relay files attached
to messages. To protect you from spam the membership list is not
available.
Under federal law you may not quote the detailed content of monitored
conversations. Never disclose details concerning active, ongoing law
enforcement investigations or surveillances. Due to current homeland
defense security concerns MABAS box card details are off-limits.
List moderators have the ultimate authority concerning all list activities.
Persons unable to comply with the above policies will be removed
from CARMA and the list. By subscribing you agree to comply with the
above list policies.
FCVPI99
Member
" I feel we have pushed hard on the envelope over the years to maintain massive distribution of accurate, timely and on-topic local monitoring related information to our membership"
so what do pictures of new police cars and fire engines have to do with scanning?? answer nothinig!
you go have fun with ur group - and il do the same (with the most current info avalable)
and from what it looks like im not your worst enemy a new group just popped up i saw it posted on my group looks like its totally agents CARMA LOL jeee wounder why?
so what do pictures of new police cars and fire engines have to do with scanning?? answer nothinig!
you go have fun with ur group - and il do the same (with the most current info avalable)
and from what it looks like im not your worst enemy a new group just popped up i saw it posted on my group looks like its totally agents CARMA LOL jeee wounder why?
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All that valuable information.. for 4 group members..
By the way i know for a fact you deleted pretty much anyone who was a member at Carma yahoo from your group.. Who is the one who is being chidish?
By the way i know for a fact you deleted pretty much anyone who was a member at Carma yahoo from your group.. Who is the one who is being chidish?
Thank you for booting me out of your group, Brian. It saved me the trouble of leaving on my own.
Let's see........................
CARMA = 1242 Members,
Your group = 4
I'd say the record speaks for itself.
Next!
Scott
Let's see........................
CARMA = 1242 Members,
Your group = 4
I'd say the record speaks for itself.
Next!
Scott
FCVPI99
Member
FFPM571 said:
ya for some reasion it wouldnt let me change to an open group i had to delete everyone
and if CRAMA has ALL the info in the world why would CARMA memebers wana join my "Little" Group
FCVPI99
Member
ScottL said:
been to ur meetings there funny
CARMA 1242 been around for 5+ years Memebers all 100 Years old that must never do anything except for sit on there butts infrot of there radios at home and at work (have u seen yourselfs - kinda Scary)
my group 4 been around for a week if that
FCVPI99
Member
but its cool like i said have fun with ur group and eat ur greasy pizza and ur dive Restaurant
wile i update your profiles for you LOL
wile i update your profiles for you LOL
OK, first you blast the club, then it's the members, and now it's the restaurant?
What next? You going to say something bad about my mother too?
Sheesh!
What next? You going to say something bad about my mother too?
Sheesh!
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