Gable mounting an antenna

[KE0GXN]

I'll post a pic of mine tomorrow in the day light, it may be to shallow too, but I'd like to get some opinions anyway.

Thanks so far guys!

 

[KE0GXN]

Here is my other eave:

 

[popnokick]

For the pic you sent of the gable near the chimney, use the top bracket of a normal eave mount, and a roof mount base like the attached picture. You should easily be able to secure a 10 foot mast setting in the base and fastened to the eave at the upper bracket. And could probably go higher than 10 feet if you add guy wires.

 

[KE0GXN]

For the pic you sent of the gable near the chimney, use the top bracket of a normal eave mount, and a roof mount base like the attached picture. You should easily be able to secure a 10 foot mast setting in the base and fastened to the eave at the upper bracket. And could probably go higher than 10 feet if you add guy wires.

Like that idea too....you got a link for that thing or a name for it?

Thanks!

 

[SCPD]

Picture perfect

Oh, and I forgot to mention my house has a second top gable, kind of like this one:

Well, I think that picture pretty much shows what I was talking about. The picture uses a metal strap (or is it shallow angle?) across where I was talking abut running wood, but same concept.

 

[n1yw]

don't know if you have any big lakes out there in MO, here in MA we have a lot of ocean. see if you can find yourself an un wanted saiboat mast. i put a few pipes into the ground on either side of a mast as a pivot and base. 2 L brackets on either side on my roof apex. my 33ft un guyed sailboat mast with 3 ele 15m yagi has been up there for 18yrs now.....

 

[popnokick]

Like that idea too....you got a link for that thing or a name for it?

Several decades ago people used to install high gain Yagi antennas to - believe it or not - receive moving picture analog signals that were simply broadcast FREE over the airwaves. Nearly every dwelling had one of these on a roof or other high location of the building. It may be possible to search Wikipedia or another Internet source of historical information to see pictures of these. I vaguely remember from my childhood my (mostly male) relatives going to the hardware store or some store that actually sold radio parts and buying the pieces for putting these high gain wideband antennas on the roof. Alas, it is a lost art and apparently no longer practiced. A complex Google search produced these results for one of the artifacts of this practice that was apparently called "TV antenna installation" -

EasyUp EZ 17 Roof Base Mount for Telescopic Antenna Mast (EZ 17) from Solid Signal

Antenna Masts, Wall Mounts, Roof Mounts and Mounting Accessories

TV ANTENNA MOUNTING HARDWARE , ROOF MOUNT, WALL MOUNT, CHIMNEY MOUNT

 

[n1yw]

Several decades ago people used to install high gain Yagi antennas to - believe it or not - receive moving picture analog signals that were simply broadcast FREE over the airwaves. Nearly every dwelling had one of these on a roof or other high location of the building. It may be possible to search Wikipedia or another Internet source of historical information to see pictures of these. I vaguely remember from my childhood my (mostly male) relatives going to the hardware store or some store that actually sold radio parts and buying the pieces for putting these high gain wideband antennas on the roof. Alas, it is a lost art and apparently no longer practiced. A complex Google search produced these results for one of the artifacts of this practice that was apparently called "TV antenna installation"

LOL LOL LOL
in the late 60's, early 70's my Dad, a TV repair man would schedule 2 weeks of the summer to install tv ant's. he paid me $10 for attic install and $15 for roof install. didn't matter how "economically challenged" a person was, there was always a tv antenna found on every roof everywhere.gee we sure were busy the yr uhf channels came out. uhf was tricky though, anything in the way, it was line of sight, would block the signal. slate roof would block it. the good ol days....

 

[KE0GXN]

don't know if you have any big lakes out there in MO, here in MA we have a lot of ocean. see if you can find yourself an un wanted saiboat mast. i put a few pipes into the ground on either side of a mast as a pivot and base. 2 L brackets on either side on my roof apex. my 33ft un guyed sailboat mast with 3 ele 15m yagi has been up there for 18yrs now.....

No sir, no big lakes around here except Grand Lake in Oklahoma and Table Rock Lake a few counties to my southeast.....I don't think there is much sailboat traffic on either one.

Thanks for the idea though.

 

[KE0GXN]

Several decades ago people used to install high gain Yagi antennas to - believe it or not - receive moving picture analog signals that were simply broadcast FREE over the airwaves. Nearly every dwelling had one of these on a roof or other high location of the building. It may be possible to search Wikipedia or another Internet source of historical information to see pictures of these. I vaguely remember from my childhood my (mostly male) relatives going to the hardware store or some store that actually sold radio parts and buying the pieces for putting these high gain wideband antennas on the roof. Alas, it is a lost art and apparently no longer practiced. A complex Google search produced these results for one of the artifacts of this practice that was apparently called "TV antenna installation" -

EasyUp EZ 17 Roof Base Mount for Telescopic Antenna Mast (EZ 17) from Solid Signal

Antenna Masts, Wall Mounts, Roof Mounts and Mounting Accessories

TV ANTENNA MOUNTING HARDWARE , ROOF MOUNT, WALL MOUNT, CHIMNEY MOUNT

Thanks.

 

[n1yw]

gable mounted sailboat mast

 

[popnokick]

You've probably noticed that the Diamond X50A (the antenna you are putting up) has the Maximum Wind Resistance stated in the manual as 60m/sec (135 MPH). I couldn't find a direct statement of wind load from Diamond, but expect that the X50 series is very low. Which is why I wrote that you could likely use an unguyed 10 ft mast in a mounting that had attachment points at the peak of the roof and extended the remainder of the mast down to the top centerline of the roof below (as pictured). I have a Diamond V2000A on a traditional eave mount on a five foot mast and it's very sturdy. I can post a pic if you're interested.

 

[KE0GXN]

I can post a pic if you're interested.

Yes, please do.

 

[NDRADIONUT]

http://menards.com/main/electrical/...18F66596C231C87C.eklka-prodapp5-external-mcom

 

[popnokick]

LOL LOL LOL
in the late 60's, early 70's my Dad, a TV repair man would schedule 2 weeks of the summer to install tv ant's. he paid me $10 for attic install and $15 for roof install. didn't matter how "economically challenged" a person was, there was always a tv antenna found on every roof everywhere.gee we sure were busy the yr uhf channels came out. uhf was tricky though, anything in the way, it was line of sight, would block the signal. slate roof would block it. the good ol days....

n1yw- Thanks for appreciating the humor. Seriously, reading these forums often makes me think that no one has ever heard of.... let alone installed.... a TV antenna! Scanner antenna install = TV antenna install. In fact, old TV antennas make very good scanner antennas (but I and others have written at length about that on other RR threads regarding scanning antennas)....

 

[popnokick]

This is my Diamond V2000A triband mounted to an old milk shed with a conventional eave mount and 5 foot mast. If I can find a 10 foot mast when the weather gets warm again, I'm going to move it up another 5 feet. The extra long radials are for 6M.

 

[majoco]

Here's a setup I had on my previous house. There is a flange on the bottom of the "J" section which has 4 big screws into the end of a 2x4 inside the fascia board. Two stays are screwed through the roof into the purlins. Mast is 2metres/6ft8" and 5 metres/16ft off the ground, Didn't blow down in the 5 years I was there on top of a hill!

 

[SteveC0625]

n1yw- Thanks for appreciating the humor. Seriously, reading these forums often makes me think that no one has ever heard of.... let alone installed.... a TV antenna! Scanner antenna install = TV antenna install. In fact, old TV antennas make very good scanner antennas (but I and others have written at length about that on other RR threads regarding scanning antennas)....

Back in those days, your local Radio Shack carried a complete line of tripods, chimney mounts and straps, posts and masts, guy wire supplies, and a lot more. Putting up any kind of antenna was easy. In the early 1980's, I had a 20' antenna mast with a no-ground-plane VHF antenna and RG-8 coax on the house just to feed the scanner.

Scanner and two-way radio antenna installs were quick and easy. And if I forgot a part, there was a RS less than a half mile away.

 

[TheSpaceMann]

Actually heard of some hams who converted those old TV antennas into 6 meter beams!

 

[KE0GXN]

Pulled the trigger today guys...ended up going with a ground mast configuration much like ny1w, except I am using electrical conduit pipe for the mast.

We'll see how things go, got to wait on the antenna and coax to be delivered.

All of you guys factored into my thought process......Thanks for all of your suggestions and advice!

73