Gaston County Officially Moves to VIPER!

AK4FD · Jun 30, 2020

Just to let everyone know, about an hour ago all Gaston County FD's have officially moved to & are actively using VIPER. I am in the process of mapping all the Talkgroups and frequencies out using UniTrunker & DSD+. I will update the database once I can find all the info out. Feel free to add any info if anyone finds it out.

David

AK4FD · Jun 30, 2020

So far I've found 1 new unlisted TG. TG 18622 I is Animal Care/Control due to the unit #'s being AC-2, AC-11, AC-12, etc. and I have been hearing calls for vicious animals.

David

AK4FD · Jun 30, 2020

Okay, here's what I have for an up-to-date TG list I have found today... There may be an error or 2 for now I can only go by the traffic I'm hearing until a confirmation can be made.

18622 -- Animal Control (confirmed by hearing vicious animal calls all day, units are AC-1, AC-11, AC-12, etc)
18992 -- County Fire Ops (Heard 2 fire dept units speaking car-2-car)
18590 -- GEMS Ops (Gaston EMS Ops; Heard dispatcher give a "P" unit (Paramedic EMS unit) a back door code for gaining entry)
18505 -- ENCRYPTED
18624 -- ENCRYPTED

Any help would be appreciated... I am still monitoring the Control Channel data using UniTrunker & my scanner for the audio comparison.

David

RaleighGuy · Jun 30, 2020

Have you noticed if there is a pattern to the RID/UIDs by TG? That might allow us to ID some of the encrypted TGs. I believe they'll be six digits starting with 71xxxx and 72xxxx.

lands818 · Jul 2, 2020

AK4FD...David, you may also want to adjust your sites to include the new Gaston simulcast Ph2 VIPER configuration, though the 536 may struggle-try it and see. Just updated the sites & TG's in my SDS100 & 200 (excellent) as well as my 996P2 & Whistler upgraded PRO668 (both doing good to great) and Gaston is hopping on VIPER tonight! I'll update my HP-2 in coming days, but figure it's not going to play well (if at all) between the simulcast & Ph2-may just have to stay with conventional sites that are in range with it. 73 de W4EV/Scott

Quantar22 · Jul 3, 2020

It should be noted that the Gaston Simulcast is NOT Phase 2 it IS Phase 1. At this time no sites (ASR or Simulcast) are Phase 2 on the 1FC system.

RaleighGuy · Jul 3, 2020

Caught radio traffic with TG not in database 18641, with RID of 729975, had unit giving dispatch starting mileage for trip to Stanley. Did not hear call signs.

nitroboie · Jul 4, 2020

Caught a few, seem to be Gaston County Sheriff? RIDs of 721xxx

18504 - unit went 10-41
18620 - Cramerton PD?
18642 - jail ops? unit called central, reference going across
18643 - more jail ops? or surveillance, reference laying down
18644 -

All heard within an hr of switching over to ID search on my 436, they're pretty busy IDs.

jake_Braker · Jul 4, 2020

nitroboie said:
Caught a few, seem to be Gaston County Sheriff? RIDs of 721xxx

18504 - unit went 10-41
18620 - Cramerton PD?
18642 - jail ops? unit called central, reference going across
18643 - more jail ops? or surveillance, reference laying down
18644 -

All heard within an hr of switching over to ID search on my 436, they're pretty busy IDs.

18504 Could be the sheriff's office because their unit numbers are 61xx

Phillipsc84 · Jul 7, 2020

I have some older notes showing:
18504 Mount Holly PD
18505 TAC
18506 TAC2
18506 TAC 3

But this is by no means concrete.

jake_Braker · Jul 7, 2020

Phillipsc84 said:
I have some older notes showing:
18504 Mount Holly PD
18505 TAC
18506 TAC2
18506 TAC 3

But this is by no means concrete.

MHPD doesn't use the VIPER system. They're on Charlotte UASI

Phillipsc84 · Jul 8, 2020

Right TGID, wrong system in my notes. They are pretty old and didn't really specify.

I can confirm that 18620 is a "channel 2" of 18561. Been watching and hearing units go between the two and every time they hit 18620 they say "...on two".

I loaded up Unitrunker on a computer and somehow I have these listed as:
18561 - GC Police / Towns Dispatch
18620 - GC Police / Town Operations

More specifically here is what I have in Unitrunker and I don't know where this came from. Some of it looks like UASI talkgroups but it was downloaded for VIPER. I should say that the date on all of these is 2017 which leads me to believe these once existed in the RR database for VIPER back then and were removed at some point. I'm not 100% sure but we can at least compare these to what is heard.

18007	Fire
18008	Sheriff: Tac
18009	Sheriff
18500	Gaston County Emergency Management
18501	Gaston County EMS
18502	Gaston County Fire
18503	Gaston County Mutual Aid
18504	Mount Holly Police Dispatch
18505	Gaston County TAC
18506	Gaston County TAC 2
18507	Gaston County TAC 3
18517	Gastonia Fire
18518	Gastonia Police
18533	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18534	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18535	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18536	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18537	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18538	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18539	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18540	GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18543	GC Events
18544	GC Events
18545	GC Events
18546	GC Events
18547	GC Events
18561	GC Police / Towns Disp
18562	GC Police / Towns (Belmont)
18566	Gaston College PD 1
18578	Belmont PD
18590	GC EMS Operations
18600	GC Fire Emergency
18620	GC Police / Town Operations
18622	GC Animal Care / Enforcement Dispatch
18640	GC Sheriff's Office Operations
18642
18643
18990	Cherryville PD Disp

nitroboie · Jul 8, 2020

18591 GC EMS Conference

jake_Braker · Jul 8, 2020

Phillipsc84 said:
Right TGID, wrong system in my notes. They are pretty old and didn't really specify.

I can confirm that 18620 is a "channel 2" of 18561. Been watching and hearing units go between the two and every time they hit 18620 they say "...on two".

I loaded up Unitrunker on a computer and somehow I have these listed as:
18561 - GC Police / Towns Dispatch
18620 - GC Police / Town Operations

More specifically here is what I have in Unitrunker and I don't know where this came from. Some of it looks like UASI talkgroups but it was downloaded for VIPER. I should say that the date on all of these is 2017 which leads me to believe these once existed in the RR database for VIPER back then and were removed at some point. I'm not 100% sure but we can at least compare these to what is heard.

18007
Fire
18008
Sheriff: Tac
18009
Sheriff
18500
Gaston County Emergency Management
18501
Gaston County EMS
18502
Gaston County Fire
18503
Gaston County Mutual Aid
18504
Mount Holly Police Dispatch
18505
Gaston County TAC
18506
Gaston County TAC 2
18507
Gaston County TAC 3
18517
Gastonia Fire
18518
Gastonia Police
18533
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18534
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18535
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18536
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18537
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18538
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18539
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18540
GC Operations ( Fire / EMS )
18543
GC Events
18544
GC Events
18545
GC Events
18546
GC Events
18547
GC Events
18561
GC Police / Towns Disp
18562
GC Police / Towns (Belmont)
18566
Gaston College PD 1
18578
Belmont PD
18590
GC EMS Operations
18600
GC Fire Emergency
18620
GC Police / Town Operations
18622
GC Animal Care / Enforcement Dispatch
18640
GC Sheriff's Office Operations
18642

18643

18990
Cherryville PD Disp

Where are you getting MHPD from? They're strictly on the UASI system.

Phillipsc84 · Jul 8, 2020

ExplorerBrandon said:
Where are you getting MHPD from? They're strictly on the UASI system.

Correct, I am stating that 18504 is their correct talkgroup but it's on the UASI system not VIPER.

AS for the list I posted, that is what you get when you download the VIPER system to Unitrunker. There are talkgroups that get downloaded that are not in the database online. I posted it because some of it might be accurate but is not listed currently. It's a starting point to see if any of it is correct.

RF-Burns · Jul 13, 2020

Has the City of Gastonia Fire moved to Viper also or are they still on UASI?

jake_Braker · Jul 13, 2020

RF-Burns said:
Has the City of Gastonia Fire moved to Viper also or are they still on UASI?

Gastonia is still on UASI

RF-Burns · Jul 13, 2020

ExplorerBrandon said:
Gastonia is still on UASI

Thank you!

KN4HTC · Jul 14, 2020

If the whole purpose of the UASI system and Viper is improving interoperability, doesn't having the county on one system and the city on another complicate things?

jake_Braker · Jul 14, 2020

KN4HTC said:
If the whole purpose of the UASI system and Viper is improving interoperability, doesn't having the county on one system and the city on another complicate things?

It can but it also helps that city and county are all in the same dispatch center (excluding state and sheriff's office) so if needed, dispatchers can communicate and patch channels for communication. So before there was a vehicle fire on I-85 and a county station and West Meck were dispatched and West Meck didn't have viper capabilities so they patched Gaston Alpha and regional Fire 3 and had no issues

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