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Ok so your story teller posted this in this thread

""""Also, just so you know who I am, I'm a 66 year old individual who spent most of my working life (over 30 years) within the two-way radio communications field as a dealer, service center, tower owner, designer and mobile data public safety systems provider. Plus I have also applied for and was granted more licenses by FCC than you will probably ever be in your life time""""

I found all his rants fishy and decided to do some research. you are free to preform the same. I was not able to find any of tower or licenses he has claimed to hold using the online search so I sent in for an offline search and just as i expected a rather new GMRS license, nothing more......

Funny how the FCC keeps records back 20 plus years for frequency licenses and forever on tower ownership via the ASR system. The only record found on this guy was a few month old GMRS license. I have contacted the TX department of revenue but have yet to hear back from them. I am guessing I am going to find the same thing. I searched for my first and last name followed by FCC and Google presented me with all my FCC licenses on the first page....

His website site is offering to finance equipment for his pay to play system. I am just advising people to do do there homework before paying any membership dues etc. Nothing here ads up, anybody with a 8th grade education and basic radio knowledge can see that. Also in his post he claims to be fluent in Asterisk and app_rpt yet he was on MyGMRS asking how to set it up. In several of his rants he calls it the ham system. Asterisk is the backbone of VOIP systems. Read and re read his posts, hes telling a grand story!



Corey

You can own a tower and not have an ASR on record in your name if:

1) It is less than 200 ft AGL and does not interfere with the approach of any airfield. No ASR required.
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2) Registered in name of a corporation.

FCC licenses can be in the name of a corporation, in Part 90 most are corporate if not public safety..

Personally I have 40 years in the LMR business working for others as an employee or consultant and have performed a lot of tasks like FCC licensing, ASR's, STA's, waivers etc. My name may be on some internal correspondence but usually a client is the POC.

I just did a search for an expired GMRS license held in my wife's name some 20 years ago. It isn't in the system.
 

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I found all his rants fishy and decided to do some research. you are free to preform the same. I was not able to find any of tower or licenses he has claimed to hold using the online search so I sent in for an offline search and just as i expected a rather new GMRS license, nothing more......

I agree with RFI-EMI-GUY. I've got a lot of licenses and towers at work and none of them are in my name. They are in the name of my employer, however the systems and towers are my responsibility.
I've only been doing this for 20 something years, though.
 

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Ok so your story teller posted this in this thread

""""Also, just so you know who I am, I'm a 66 year old individual who spent most of my working life (over 30 years) within the two-way radio communications field as a dealer, service center, tower owner, designer and mobile data public safety systems provider. Plus I have also applied for and was granted more licenses by FCC than you will probably ever be in your life time""""

I found all his rants fishy and decided to do some research. you are free to preform the same. I was not able to find any of tower or licenses he has claimed to hold using the online search so I sent in for an offline search and just as i expected a rather new GMRS license, nothing more......

Funny how the FCC keeps records back 20 plus years for frequency licenses and forever on tower ownership via the ASR system. The only record found on this guy was a few month old GMRS license. I have contacted the TX department of revenue but have yet to hear back from them. I am guessing I am going to find the same thing. I searched for my first and last name followed by FCC and Google presented me with all my FCC licenses on the first page....

His website site is offering to finance equipment for his pay to play system. I am just advising people to do do there homework before paying any membership dues etc. Nothing here ads up, anybody with a 8th grade education and basic radio knowledge can see that. Also in his post he claims to be fluent in Asterisk and app_rpt yet he was on MyGMRS asking how to set it up. In several of his rants he calls it the ham system. Asterisk is the backbone of VOIP systems. Read and re read his posts, hes telling a grand story!



Corey

It's always easier to sit back and accuse others of being a fraud than it is to go directly to the source and ask the questions you require to satisfy your ego.

In addition, your ignorance when it comes to FCC, FAA and Texas law and the structure of Texas Licensing is more than apparent. And for your math skills (which must be lower than that of a eighth grader), let me remind you again, I'm 66 years of age, do the math ---- more than 20 years ago I would venture to say would be back before you probably got out of diapers. I opened my first two-way shop in my early twenties.... That sir was back in 1970..... 2017 - 1970 = 47 years ago....

You talk about searching FCC database, a database that up till about ten years ago was never 100% accurate. In addition, because of your ignorance and lack of desire to do your homework first, you failed to understand that most commercial licenses back in the 60's, 70's and early 80's could be and were filed under company names in addition to owner names. Also, FCC didn't keep track of tower ownership back in those days as tower location and ownership comes under FAA...not FCC... You only had to list the tower on the FCC application if the transmitter was located on a tower that was over 200 foot as FAA required all towers over 200 foot to be registered and lighted....

If anyone here is a fraud, sir it would be you. You have had every opportunity, as others have and have done, to go directly to the source and ask all the questions your little heart desired. I have provided a email address and phone number on my website just for that purpose and yet you find it easier to make a fool out of yourself on here instead of asking the questions directly.

This forum, just like other forums/blogs, is full if fools and idiots that like to degrade others..... Apparently you have chosen to take the path of being the fool that adds to the problem instead of being the educated one that knows how to solve problems. Unfortunately I am not the one to educate you nor is this the place to debate your ignorance... I shall leave that to others.

Have a great day sir,

William R Howell,
GMRS License Call Sign: WQYX489
CEO, USGMRS Repeater & Users Group Association
USGMRS Repeater & Users Group Association Welcome Page | Giving GMRS Users A Way To Communicate Across America
 

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This thread has gone way out of bounds. The OP topic is how to link GMRS repeaters over RoIP and not how to run the "business aspect" of a non profit repeater system. While entertaining, I think most would like to learn the nuts and bolts of RoIP. I know that I would.
I agree.

The topic of this thread is the technical aspects of linking GMRS repeaters using RoIP. The business aspect of networking repeaters or GMRS repeater systems is off-topic for this thread and any further posts along those lines will be deleted. If you want to start a new thread discussing the business aspects, feel free to do so.
 

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Just finished putting my GMRS repeater on N2DLX's network. Took me a while to make it through the Linux hurdle and to adjust the audio levels, but I connected to a repeater in New Mexico and had a very good QSO with a guy out there. Audio was crystal clear and there was only a slight delay, I suppose to handle the jitter. Speaking of jitter, there was none during the time I used the link. I am amazed at the amount of parameters that can be configured for the cost of the hardware. I just don't speak Linux very well. N2DLX has put together a very nice system and I'm glad I joined.
 

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Just finished putting my GMRS repeater on N2DLX's network. Took me a while to make it through the Linux hurdle and to adjust the audio levels, but I connected to a repeater in New Mexico and had a very good QSO with a guy out there. Audio was crystal clear and there was only a slight delay, I suppose to handle the jitter. Speaking of jitter, there was none during the time I used the link. I am amazed at the amount of parameters that can be configured for the cost of the hardware. I just don't speak Linux very well. N2DLX has put together a very nice system and I'm glad I joined.

Do you have a link to a list of all the repeaters that are part of his network. his webpage seems to be limited to the NJ and PA regions.

Also what hardware are you using for the link?
 

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There is IN, IL, TX, NM, NC, NJ and GA so far. I'll see if I can find the link. It is on my other computer. It'll probably be later today.
 

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More on the way.

There is IN, IL, TX, NM, NC, NJ and GA so far. I'll see if I can find the link. It is on my other computer. It'll probably be later today.

I own the IL machine and I am in the process of linking 3 Wisconsin Machines. We should have Chicago to Madison linked before summer. All but one site are using an MTR2000 repeater with the RTCM from Micro-Node International.
 

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Well, glad I went to the tower today as my hotspot battery was swollen and bulging very badly. My intention was to wait until Saturday to take the equipment out to the tower. I don't think the poor hotspot would have made it to Saturday. I would have probably had an explosion or a fire had I not gone today. All was fine this past Saturday, so from then until now the problem presented itself.

So, the Jacksonville link will be offline until Verizon sends me a new hotspot. It was working so good at the house too. It's a shame that it can't be utilized yet. Hopefully Verizon won't take too long getting it replaced.
 

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Im in TX and would be interested to see what GMRS machines are linked.

From what I see on the link page, the only one for TX is the Dickinson machine that is listed as Galveston County GMRS. I'm not sure, but I think more Texas machines are in the works.
 

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Link Controller....

I will soon have a controller available for the linking of GMRS repeaters. It's a combo repeater controller and a VOIP link controller. The expected ship date to be around June 15 of this year, baring any other problems, if you can wait. Spending over a hundred dollars for a controller just doesn't seem logical for a good repeater & linking controller... As always, I'm always open for opinions on that.....

My controller though, will NOT have the ability to connect to the Allstar or Echolink networks.... no way, no how, never........ so if you have need to connect your repeater to an existing repeater controller that is attached to those two networks and want to use yours connect to my network.... can't happen......

The use of any controller(s) that have the options to connect your repeater into those two networks or to allow for controlling additional repeaters that are on other frequency bands only opens the door for hackers to cause interference..... something not allowed for on my network.... If you are a combo ham and GMRS License holder and have a controller that is associated with your GMRS repeater and a ham repeater you are asking for major problems of which the USGMRS Repeater & Users Group Association wishes not to be part of.....

I know some of you have been sending emails to me asking for information of repeaters to be linked or are linked in different states... until the website is done where you can actually see them listed and until the new controller boards are installed and all repeaters are linked all I can say is at this point is I have received request for linking currently installed repeaters and request for linking of planned installs of approximately 204 locations as of today.... and it appears that it will keep growing....

This goes to show the want and desire by GMRS licensees for statewide and nationwide linking (either on my network or on other networks) and I am moving forward on a steady pace in providing such.

I wish to thank all of you on here that have sent emails requesting I list on this site and in this forum the repeaters that are currently linked or planned for linking, also giving recommendations for linking repeater areas, and the direction you wish to see the use of GMRS linking move.... I fully plan with your help to see that USGMRS Linking will work to the benefit of everyone and not just a few. I can't list them as of right now until the website is finished and the controllers are installed and operational.

The only question left to ask as of right now is, If you currently have a linked county wide or state wide system in operation do you have plans down the road on making it available to a major linked network? If so please list your location so those of us doing the nationwide build out can plan on the proper direction to take. The last thing we want to do is to place systems in areas where no one wants to be part of a linked network on the startup...

Also, I have received request fro approx 20-30 individuals wanting to see a GMRS repeater place into operation in their local area... It's hard to justify a repeater just for one or two people but if you are in an area that has more than 15 verifiable users and no repeater is available for your use and feel that having one that also has the ability to link would be an asset and would be cause for your area to grow in licensed users please let me know so that I can figure that into the planning stages..... just list your area here.....

This thread is about linking with ROIP.....lets get together and link some repeaters...that's what I and the USGMRS Association is about.....lets do this....

Have a great day,

William R Howell,
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CEO, USGMRS Repeater & Users Group Association
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The linked systems can be found here:

https://link.mygmrs.com/map

Note that although this uses app_rpt, there is no connection to any other network. There is no way to connect to Ham systems like Allstar or Echolink, so this is a Part 95-compliant system.

The hardware can be had for $170, or you could build your own if you're savvy enough.

Also note that the systems are not all connected to each other. Most repeaters are not linked until a user wishes to make a distant contact, then the link is disconnected. This is not full-time linking like you may be used to on Ham systems, but the ability to link any repeater to any repeater is there.
 

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This is not full-time linking like you may be used to on Ham systems, but the ability to link any repeater to any repeater is there.
Rich, am I correct in assuming that you can only link to a single repeater at a time, or is it possible to have a multi-connect paradigm?

Never mind. Having looked closer at the Dashboard I've answered my own question... :D
 

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Rich, am I correct in assuming that you can only link to a single repeater at a time, or is it possible to have a multi-connect paradigm?

Never mind. Having looked closer at the Dashboard I've answered my own question... :D

Yep, you can link multiple repeaters by chaining them together, or you could create a node that doesn't have a repeater attached and use that as a "hub" or "reflector" node. Whichever repeaters are connected to that hub will have audio routed to all of them.
 

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There was very little during my testing. A little more than Zello, but not too bad. There was no jitter to speak of and no dropped words or packets.
 

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Nice! Are there any real latency issues?

Not really. Since it's using Asterisk which is a PBX system, it's about what you'd expect from a VoIP phone system. There will be a small amount based on how far the remote side is, so cross-country will have more latency than two in the same area.

It's not really noticeable, and doesn't impact a conversation in any way. It's just like the other party is on the same repeater as you.

I can't take much credit since it's based on app_rpt which is what powers the Allstar link. The difference here is that I'm running my own server so it's a completely private network and does not connect to the Allstar server or repeaters at all. Then I'm adding my own website to show the status of the links with a lot more to come shortly.
 
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