I don't think this topic has stray'd off course at all. It was about HAARP in the beginning, and has stay'd pretty close to centre all along. I do think, like any emotionally charged subject-- do I dare say, religious?... that the responses are what should have been expected. I hope that the casual reader has found it both entertaining (foremost) and maybe even informative.
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K1NNG, Arthur (if I may call you that? for I see it in your Bio... and please call me Lauri..
) I, for one, am not picking on you. I respect your opinions- though I don't agree with them.
You, unfortunately or otherwise, have tread'd into a snake pit on this subject, for you have enter'd into an arena of what, looking for a good general term-- is of scientists.
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Scientists don't deal with Feelings- we can't afford it (though during some blistering, sweltering summer days on visits to the Mid Atlantic states you could almost convince me that my experiments caused the 'global warming' as I sweat and suffer..... ---- But feelings are the stuff of religions- and science has no place for dogma.
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Okay, just to prove the point-- I'll take MmcKenna's challenge ---and say that the sky isn't blue...it just appears that way because of the spectral properties of air's major constituent- nitrogen-- the sky is really black- as seen from high altitude without sunlight impacting nitrogen molecules--- as in the pitch blackness of space...... phew.... And No ! !, I was not being serious in throwing out that challenge !!
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But that is science... try *that*explanation out a few hundred years ago and I'd have been burn'd at the stake !
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One of the greatest things about being a "scientist" is it gives license to be wrong. The only requirement is an inquiring mind-- and a humble disposition to your work (like 'Yeah, Humble !'- tell that to my guys...laffing...)
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I'll get off the soapbox and back to HAARP.
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The question was asked "what benefit has any of this done?" or words to that effect.
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Personally I did my doctoral dissertation on the very very longwaves associated with aurora's- some of those projects I work'd with have found their way into direct tangibles, like the protection from EMP's of our power grids (though I only learn'd that much much later.) But without the orginal scientific inquiries, the starting points- that wouldn't have happen'd. I dare anyone to tell me, that the cost of my research that might be used to protect the power grid of this country was not a good use of their tax dollars.
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Ye gads !, did I go off on that !
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...........and for lack of being able to muster further passion on the subject, I'll sign..............
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.......................CF
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K1NNG, Arthur (if I may call you that? for I see it in your Bio... and please call me Lauri..
) I, for one, am not picking on you. I respect your opinions- though I don't agree with them. You, unfortunately or otherwise, have tread'd into a snake pit on this subject, for you have enter'd into an arena of what, looking for a good general term-- is of scientists.
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Scientists don't deal with Feelings- we can't afford it (though during some blistering, sweltering summer days on visits to the Mid Atlantic states you could almost convince me that my experiments caused the 'global warming' as I sweat and suffer.....
---- But feelings are the stuff of religions- and science has no place for dogma..
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Okay, just to prove the point-- I'll take MmcKenna's challenge ---and say that the sky isn't blue...it just appears that way because of the spectral properties of air's major constituent- nitrogen-- the sky is really black- as seen from high altitude without sunlight impacting nitrogen molecules--- as in the pitch blackness of space...... phew.... And No ! !, I was not being serious in throwing out that challenge !!
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But that is science... try *that*explanation out a few hundred years ago and I'd have been burn'd at the stake !
.
One of the greatest things about being a "scientist" is it gives license to be wrong. The only requirement is an inquiring mind-- and a humble disposition to your work (like 'Yeah, Humble !'- tell that to my guys...laffing...)
.
_______________________________________________
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I'll get off the soapbox and back to HAARP.
.
The question was asked "what benefit has any of this done?" or words to that effect.
.
Personally I did my doctoral dissertation on the very very longwaves associated with aurora's- some of those projects I work'd with have found their way into direct tangibles, like the protection from EMP's of our power grids (though I only learn'd that much much later.) But without the orginal scientific inquiries, the starting points- that wouldn't have happen'd. I dare anyone to tell me, that the cost of my research that might be used to protect the power grid of this country was not a good use of their tax dollars.
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_____________________________________
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Ye gads !, did I go off on that !
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...........and for lack of being able to muster further passion on the subject, I'll sign..............
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.......................CF
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