GTO_04
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They just announced that the rebanding has begun. All non-essential car-to-car traffic is to be done on MDTs or cell phones due to limited capacity. They are supposed to be finished rebanding at 06:00.
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Hamilton County Rebanding
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Reband is up and running now TG are the same
Here is a link to get to the info fast with out hunting for it wish the DB would have left the new order on there may make hard for new people to figure out how to convert
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=323
CC change 852.1875 right now 7:51am
Here is a link to get to the info fast with out hunting for it wish the DB would have left the new order on there may make hard for new people to figure out how to convert
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=323
CC change 852.1875 right now 7:51am
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GTO_04
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I am hearing the EDACS beeps now on some transmissions. Never had this happen before on my 396XT.
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Are you sure you have the right LCN I am not getting the beeps at all trunking great however still sounds like crap lots of hum in Carmel fires radios and units asking to repeat on HCS great time to listen lots of storms and lots of radio traffic good work out for the reband freqs
GTO_04
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Double checked LCN and they are correct. It's almost acting like I am out of range. Have not had that problem before with the XT.
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zerobleu
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Correct LCN
This is what was posted about this time last year to the database and then later removed.
This is what was posted about this time last year to the database and then later removed.
Viper43
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I have had it before reband and it seems to occur with weather changes. The beep is no big deal though, it's always there, you just don't hear it all the time
IndyRick
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OK, guys and gals, I'm pulling my hair out. I'm trying to program a Pro-97 and just not having any luck.
I read that since this is an EDACS system, this radio will still work on the new system.
I've been following the easier-to-read manual step by step, and used the LCN order a couple of posts above me.
But it still locks up on the control channel....with the audio coming through. It's not scanning it as a trunked system. Any help would be much appreciated!
I read that since this is an EDACS system, this radio will still work on the new system.
I've been following the easier-to-read manual step by step, and used the LCN order a couple of posts above me.
But it still locks up on the control channel....with the audio coming through. It's not scanning it as a trunked system. Any help would be much appreciated!
Unless I am missing somthing it wont work I have tried sevral old scanners including a 780 and it does not support reband.. Reband uses a 6.25 step and there is NO option to make that step in a radio shack 2053 or a 780xlt the scanner see the step as 12.5 and the CC data is 6.25 so my 780 is no good I use in the garage and the back up 2053 is out dated now as well this will be the same for Safe T analog when they reband as well. I dont belive the Pro 97 will support it but check your step u may need to change each freq to a 6.25 step not 12.5
The LCN list posted is correct and has been verified by the EDACS techs and works fine in my 996 and 396 and 2096 as well as others I have
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themadman364
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you have to put the bank into EDACS mode before it will act as a trunked system.
See the following link for a quick write up.
you could also use some of the available programming software out there to accomplish this as well.
http://www.qsl.net/ah7e/pdf/pro97-EDACS.pdf
I've also been watching this today (after I couldn't receive any audio this morning!) and can verify the Freq's as well. My Pro-106 has been following the new freq's all day. I've also been watching the system via unitracker and the data all seems to be normal.
GTO_04
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Looks like the 780 is now obsolete for me. I shouldn't have any problem with the EDACS reband on my 796 though. It shouldn't need any firmware upgrades, correct?
I'm glad I put off reprogramming the 780 since it would have been futile. This post saved me a lot of frustration LOL. I reprogrammed my XTs, now the GRE and RS are next.
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hehehe, I hope you didn't think changing frequencies would make this system sound better.... you can't make junk sound better just by changing frequencies....they need a whole new system, not a bandaid patch job they did the past couple years. They need to switch to SAFET and leave this junk system as a backup
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Noblesville PD officer telling his dispatcher that his "Portable radio is in sometype of scan mode and will not pick anything up" Dispatch told him to hold down the down button and go to NNPD as this was there New Talkgroup 6-21-2010 Monday 6-21-2010
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W9NES
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Thanks ZeroBlue for your correct scan list for Hamilton County.I have re programmed all of my scanners and they work great.
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Agentblack
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They are going back around now and removing the old channels and will no longer have the long delay for it to find the new systems. They have done several fire departments already and should be wrapping up in the near future.
GTO_04
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Still A LOT of static and hash on the system. Needless to say the rebanding did not help with that. I am thinking it's a simulcast issue that Harris is unable to work out.
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GTO-04,
I said it above, anyone thinking changing frequencies, ie: rebanding, will help Hamilton Co EDACS is crazy. You cannot make junk better by changing frequencies. The fact is the system needs to be completely rebuilt, fom the ground up. All they have done time and time again is do bandaid patch jobs on the system and keep paying and paying and paying for a system that can't be fixed. They have replaced Antenna's, transmitters, consoles, radios and still the same dangerous system is there. The only fix is to completely build another system, and not what they are using now (EDACS) which has proven time and again to be a pain in the backside to the users. Honestly they should just get off the EDACS boat and go SAFET or, if they insist on having their own system go to a Moto P25 thats easily compatable with the states future changes to SAFET and MECA.
First off they will have to get rid of those in charge of the communications system in the county and bring in new blood who can't be swayed by Harris to keep dumping $$ into a dead horse. Unfortunately nothing will happen until some first responders are seriously injured or killed or the same happens to a citizen because the radio system either failed or just isn't working correctly. The citizens of Hamilton Co are being hosed by those in charge of the system and those who are supposed to make it work right.
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I said it above, anyone thinking changing frequencies, ie: rebanding, will help Hamilton Co EDACS is crazy. You cannot make junk better by changing frequencies. The fact is the system needs to be completely rebuilt, fom the ground up. All they have done time and time again is do bandaid patch jobs on the system and keep paying and paying and paying for a system that can't be fixed. They have replaced Antenna's, transmitters, consoles, radios and still the same dangerous system is there. The only fix is to completely build another system, and not what they are using now (EDACS) which has proven time and again to be a pain in the backside to the users. Honestly they should just get off the EDACS boat and go SAFET or, if they insist on having their own system go to a Moto P25 thats easily compatable with the states future changes to SAFET and MECA.
First off they will have to get rid of those in charge of the communications system in the county and bring in new blood who can't be swayed by Harris to keep dumping $$ into a dead horse. Unfortunately nothing will happen until some first responders are seriously injured or killed or the same happens to a citizen because the radio system either failed or just isn't working correctly. The citizens of Hamilton Co are being hosed by those in charge of the system and those who are supposed to make it work right.
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To clear up some miss information here the EMS PD FIRE get there funds yes from Property taxes. However the 911 and Radio system mostly get there funds from the portion of your phone bill are either Cell or Land line from the portion you pay under E911 pays for 911 service and Radio System plus some government funds grants
The EDACS system has major issues now since reband they where not able to test or fine tune the new frequencies before switch over due to not being able to run two separate systems at one time due to towers at maxim wind load not being able to add addional antennas and funding. For example this week 852.1875 had no signal and DSP had to say repeat many times or unkey till system moved to another frequency since earlier today it is now fixed and the CC even operates fine on there.
I would agree that a lot of money gets wasted in Carmel at least on round abouts unneeded road work monon trail and so on that could be used for a Radio System I would think if the public knew how much not only there lives are affected by it and that officers and fire personnel are in danger that they would not mine paying a small or a bit more in there E911 Phone Bill portion if it ment keeping every one safe as far as Safe T for Hamilton County it has the same issues here in the County only having one tower site when they made the switch the night before reband they used Safe T and had issues hearing on there and they got busies on that system so some much needed improvement would have to take place to use Safe T in Hamilton County.
The EDACS system has major issues now since reband they where not able to test or fine tune the new frequencies before switch over due to not being able to run two separate systems at one time due to towers at maxim wind load not being able to add addional antennas and funding. For example this week 852.1875 had no signal and DSP had to say repeat many times or unkey till system moved to another frequency since earlier today it is now fixed and the CC even operates fine on there.
I would agree that a lot of money gets wasted in Carmel at least on round abouts unneeded road work monon trail and so on that could be used for a Radio System I would think if the public knew how much not only there lives are affected by it and that officers and fire personnel are in danger that they would not mine paying a small or a bit more in there E911 Phone Bill portion if it ment keeping every one safe as far as Safe T for Hamilton County it has the same issues here in the County only having one tower site when they made the switch the night before reband they used Safe T and had issues hearing on there and they got busies on that system so some much needed improvement would have to take place to use Safe T in Hamilton County.
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