Help the admins clean up the orphans

[ka3jjz]

Checking the list of orphan pages at:

Orphaned pages - The RadioReference Wiki

I see we have nearly 3 dozen of them. This gets to be a problem; orphans don't link to anything, so they hang out there, and they are hardly if ever read (since they aren't linked to something, they tend to be hard to find) nor updated. Potentially at least some of these are out of date data, and this is where you come in.

As mentined in the user guide, the correct way to drop an article (it is preferable to rewrite it if at all possible) is to blank all the data in the article, remove all categories, then send a note to Bob W9RXR or Bezking to delete it. Only admins (of which I am not one anymore) can delete articles.

If you are writing an article and are unsure to what it should be linked, please let one of us know, and we'll point you in the right direction.

Cleaning up the wiki from time to time removed old and unwanted stuff - as it grows, so too does the potential for old data to sit there. It's up to you to see that it's removed or updated.

best regards..Mike

 

[ecps92]

Thanks for the Reminde Mike....

I'll get to those BIA, BLM, USFS etc that I created tonight. [Looks like mike got bored and did them, Thanks M]

I knew there was something I forgot

Checking the list of orphan pages at:

Orphaned pages - The RadioReference Wiki

I see we have nearly 3 dozen of them. This gets to be a problem; orphans don't link to anything, so they hang out there, and they are hardly if ever read (since they aren't linked to something, they tend to be hard to find) nor updated. Potentially at least some of these are out of date data, and this is where you come in.

As mentined in the user guide, the correct way to drop an article (it is preferable to rewrite it if at all possible) is to blank all the data in the article, remove all categories, then send a note to Bob W9RXR or Bezking to delete it. Only admins (of which I am not one anymore) can delete articles.

If you are writing an article and are unsure to what it should be linked, please let one of us know, and we'll point you in the right direction.

Cleaning up the wiki from time to time removed old and unwanted stuff - as it grows, so too does the potential for old data to sit there. It's up to you to see that it's removed or updated.

best regards..Mike

 

[ka3jjz]

I didn't get them all, Bill - gotta leave something for you to do, hi

Thanks Mike

 

[Jay911]

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Parkland_County_(AB)

That one had no information that is not in the DB (where it should be). I blanked it - please remove.

 

[nd5y]

Does that orphan list page update itself?
I tried to fix the Camp Bullis page I made a while back but it is still on the list. I didn't think it was an orphan when I created it.
If you click on the "collaborate" link on a database page. It creates a blank wiki page if there is nothing already there.
Am I right in assuming these are orphans? If you add a category is it still an orhpan?
Is there a way to make a new wiki page from a template or someting that makes automatically link back to the db page that created it in the first place?

 

[ibagli]

A page is listed as orphaned by MediaWiki if no other pages in the wiki link directly to it. Categories and collaboration links in the database aren't included.

 

[kma371]

I'd fix the Oakland/piedmont stuff if I knew how. The wiki is still a mystery for me.

 

[ka3jjz]

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Parkland_County_(AB)

That one had no information that is not in the DB (where it should be). I blanked it - please remove.

Again, as is also in the guide, in case Bob and/or Ben doesn't see it please be sure to email them. That way they can gather all the requests up and do them all at once.

thanks...best regards..Mike

 

[ka3jjz]

I'd fix the Oakland/piedmont stuff if I knew how. The wiki is still a mystery for me.

The links that are on the bottom of the main page list a quick guide, along with a link to the official language reference site. It's in the 'Editing and Commands' orange box.

Let one of us know what you want to do and we can help. Your best bet is to copy whatever it is you want to fix into your user area- in so doing, if you mess up, you have not damaged the production version in the slightest.

best regards..Mike

 

[ka3jjz]

Does that orphan list page update itself?
I tried to fix the Camp Bullis page I made a while back but it is still on the list. I didn't think it was an orphan when I created it.
If you click on the "collaborate" link on a database page. It creates a blank wiki page if there is nothing already there.
Am I right in assuming these are orphans? If you add a category is it still an orhpan?
Is there a way to make a new wiki page from a template or someting that makes automatically link back to the db page that created it in the first place?

What will happen is if someone were to work on that page, and link it to something, the software will automatically remove the page from the orphans list. The user need do nothing further to fix that issue.

Categories are not involved in this process - although logically you would think they would be. An article must link to some other article to be removed from the orphans list by the software.

The collaborate link will cause you to open an edit screen so a new article can be created, assuming nothing is already there. If the article is then not linked to another article in the wiki, that is the definition of an orphan. You must *manually* link the article to something else. The software cannot decide for you to what page that new article must belong. With over 5000 pages, such a decision must be human-driven.

In many cases, perhaps not all, an article created from a collaboration link in the database belongs to that database entity. In other words, if you put an article out for Anne Arundel County in Maryland, then somewhere, you should link it to that county's article, if one exists. If it doesn't, then adding a link to that state's list of counties page would work. Both functions would avoid creating an orphan. Linking it to the database wouldn't resolve the orphan simply because they are 2 separate environments

Sounds like a mouthful, I know, but if you keep in mind that the wiki is a database of sorts, it becomes much easier to understand how things are supposed to be linked (in SQL, we would likely say 'bound') together.

In your case, all you would need to do to resolve the orphan - assuming here that the page is still good - is put a link for it to the Bexar County Texas page. The software will fix the index for the orphans and drop it from the list.

best regards..Mike

 

[kruser]

I tried to correct the IE Communications 800 orphan but did not succeed so I reverted my edit back.
If you go to the system page at: IE Communications 800 (Metro StL/So. IL) Trunking System, St. Louis/Southern IL, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies the Wiki link for that system is wrong. It takes you to a blank wiki page at: http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/IE_Communications_800_(Metro_StL/So._IL) the correct Wiki link for that system should point to the orphaned page at: IE Communications - 800 MHz St. Louis/So. IL - The RadioReference Wiki

I could not figure out how to edit this but maybe a db admin is needed for this change.

Fix that and the orphan should go away. The orphaned pages info does appear correct.

Thanks!

 

[AK9R]

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Parkland_County_(AB)

That one had no information that is not in the DB (where it should be). I blanked it - please remove.

Done. Thank you.

 

[AK9R]

If you go to the system page at: IE Communications 800 (Metro StL/So. IL) Trunking System, St. Louis/Southern IL, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies the Wiki link for that system is wrong. It takes you to a blank wiki page at: http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/IE_Communications_800_(Metro_StL/So._IL) the correct Wiki link for that system should point to the orphaned page at: IE Communications - 800 MHz St. Louis/So. IL - The RadioReference Wiki

The links from the DB pages to the collaboration articles in the Wiki are automatically generated by the DB software. So, I created a redirect on the blank article to the article that has the information. Not the best solution, but it works for now.

 

[kruser]

The links from the DB pages to the collaboration articles in the Wiki are automatically generated by the DB software. So, I created a redirect on the blank article to the article that has the information. Not the best solution, but it works for now.

Super! The orphan list is growing shorter I see.
Your redirect seems to have worked fine.