HOA Friendly NVIS Options…
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What organization makes this requirement in order to join?
BMDaug
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K6GBW
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Most ALE stations use something like a terminated folded dipole or even a terminated end fed wire antenna. They are NOT efficient antennas at all, but given that military and government stations rarely are talking all that far they work well enough. You're additional complicating factor is keeping it low profile. Look for "terminated inverted V antennas" because these can be installed in below the level of the roof, making them invisible from the front of a home.
Hex beams look like those clothing dryers.
I wouldn’t even put yourself on the radar by asking for permission. I believe that would just invite more people to looks harder for things to Karen about.
I wouldn’t even put yourself on the radar by asking for permission. I believe that would just invite more people to looks harder for things to Karen about.
BMDaug
I am licensed…
Unfortunately, the HOA only allows retractable clotheslines… So, we are back to putting the antenna up and taking it down every morning… not a big deal until winter hits. Then I’m not really looking to forward to setting up in single digits, in the snow, in the dark!
-B
-B
Thats the issue with HOA's and why I would never live in one. My property, my rules.
BMDaug
I am licensed…
That’s a nice idea, but right now, it’s this or homelessness. So yes, ideologically I completely agree, and once made that exact declaration… but situations change.
-B
mastr
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Good luck- looks to me like you are heading toward a "more trouble than it is worth" situation.
BMDaug
I am licensed…
Lots of hobbies are more trouble than they are worth lol… I have multiple solid solutions, I’m just narrowing down the options and hopefully choosing the best one for the application and circumstances!
Thanks everyone for the ideas and advice!
-B
KC4YDY
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There are no requirement in either Army or Air Force MARS for your equipment to be ALE or freq-hop capable, only that your equipment has been "wide banded" so you are able to leave the Amateur frequencies and operate on military frequencies. Years ago I was in Army MARS and just had a home-brew 40m inverted V antenna. Had no problems at all using a tuner. You shouldn't have any problems with your radio and tuner.
US Army MARS - Frequently Asked Questions
Military Auxiliary Radio System Frequently Asked Questions What is MARS? MARS stands for Military Auxiliary Radio System. MARS is a Department of Defense sponsored capability authorized under DOD Instruction 4650.02 and implemented in Army Regulation 25-6 that organizes and trains the best,
www.usarmymars.org
Neither indicate any necessity for ALE or freq-hop.
Getting back to your HOA problem, will they allow you to install a flag pole in your front yard? If so, all you need is a 23' "flagpole", insulated from ground, and enough radials (I forget the length and qty) buried just under the surface of your grass. Put a wire tuner (SGC, Yaesu, Icom) in a weather-tight box at the base and you have a nice all-band vertical.
73
sloop
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For all those that said I will never live in an HOA...I said that at one time. But, sometimes when you move there is no other choice. If a poll was taken I'm sure that there are a lot of hams (and potential new hams) that live in "deed restrictive" areas whether it is community based or HOA. Unfortunately the ARRL seems not to consider it that important to help other than to say get a lawyer. So much for the rant, my apologies.
Now for the help for MASTR...I ran my coax through a wall into a closet then up through the ceiling into the attic. I have an Icom AH4 antenna tuner with approx. (to lazy to measure) 70 feet of wire for the antenna. I ran the wire (using zip ties to the rafters) 30 feet then turned it 90 degrees for another 40 feet over the rafter supports forming an L shape. Things you have to watch out for are electric lines, natural gas lines (my utilities are in the attic), and most of all metal backed roofing or insulation. Stay at lease 3 feet away from electric and gas lines with the antenna. The antenna tunes on all bands and works well for a compromised antenna. I also mounted my VHF/UHF antenna to a 2x4 I placed between 2 rafters. BTW my HOA refused my request because "if we let you everybody will want to". O'well best of luck.
Now for the help for MASTR...I ran my coax through a wall into a closet then up through the ceiling into the attic. I have an Icom AH4 antenna tuner with approx. (to lazy to measure) 70 feet of wire for the antenna. I ran the wire (using zip ties to the rafters) 30 feet then turned it 90 degrees for another 40 feet over the rafter supports forming an L shape. Things you have to watch out for are electric lines, natural gas lines (my utilities are in the attic), and most of all metal backed roofing or insulation. Stay at lease 3 feet away from electric and gas lines with the antenna. The antenna tunes on all bands and works well for a compromised antenna. I also mounted my VHF/UHF antenna to a 2x4 I placed between 2 rafters. BTW my HOA refused my request because "if we let you everybody will want to". O'well best of luck.
KC4YDY
Newbie
Not much the ARRL or the FCC can or would do about HOA contracts. When you move into an HOA, you sign a private contract stating that you will abide by the rules and regulations of the HOA. The courts are never going to allow you to break your contract with the HOA, whether you hold an Amateur Radio license or not. Could you imagine the chaos that precedent would cause?! Being able to one-sidedly break any line item of a private contract at will?! "Sorry Tesla, I took my 3-day old car to the race track and blew up the batteries. You are responsible for the warranty repair..." Yeah, I'll let you figure out how that would work out in a court room. Sorry, but if you move into an HOA, you're stuck with what you signed.
And no, I am not a lawyer, I just pretend to be one on the internet. <smirk>
73!
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