Icom: Icom ID-52 and DMR

[riflemin]

Go Kenwood -- Their NX-5000 Series. You'll get P25, NXDN, and DMR all in 1 mono band package. However you can only use 2 digital modes at a time.


If hams new how much cost effective gear was sitting out there on the cost effective market...

I work for a communication test equipment manufacturer. We have dozens of portable and mobile radios representing most digital protocols and manufacturers. I was like a kid in a candy store when I started here. Sure, I'd love to have them to play with but in reality, they are a bit of overkill for Amateur use. And if I recall correctly, they are specified for occupational use?

I could be wrong, but "cost" saving may not be enough motivation, because you still have to know someone to program the radio or spend big bucks on the software? Also why carry a bulky LMR radio when the Amateur version is generally smaller and lighter?

Aside from all the bells and whistles in the P25 standard both Yaesu Fusion and P-25 Phase1 are FDMA. Wouldn't they perform about the same? So why use P-25 unless you also use it on your job or as a Volunteer firefighter? I don't know if YSF has nearly as much error correction though.

 

[AF1UD]

I work for a communication test equipment manufacturer. We have dozens of portable and mobile radios representing most digital protocols and manufacturers. I was like a kid in a candy store when I started here. Sure, I'd love to have them to play with but in reality, they are a bit of overkill for Amateur use. And if I recall correctly, they are specified for occupational use?

I could be wrong, but "cost" saving may not be enough motivation, because you still have to know someone to program the radio or spend big bucks on the software? Also why carry a bulky LMR radio when the Amateur version is generally smaller and lighter?

Aside from all the bells and whistles in the P25 standard both Yaesu Fusion and P-25 Phase1 are FDMA. Wouldn't they perform about the same? So why use P-25 unless you also use it on your job or as a Volunteer firefighter? I don't know if YSF has nearly as much error correction though.

I've found it's much easier to program then any CCR, and are better quality. Old adage of what you get what you pay for. It's something that will last, and perform well. I started off using amateur gear, but it always felt cheap and what I paid for wasn't what I got.

There also isn't a lot of YSF where I am. I use them as scanner radios. I can use 1 that does everything I need it to do.

 

[paulears]

Few business users need anything approaching the complexity of the ham systems or the clever Motorola or the kenwood. A channel knob and a system that is secure and works is all they want.