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Is it time to unload mobiles & repeaters?

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hockeyshrink

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I have been trying to read the tea leaves, probably like every other GMRSer out there, on what's coming down the road with the FCC and the "new" GMRS.

My question: is it time to sell our mobiles and repeaters to get whatever we can from them before they are rendered illegal?

I'm personally wrestling with this one....

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hell no, keep it all. iv put too much time money and effort into my system and radios. if i have to, ill go pass the tech exam and switch all my stuff over to the 70cm band. i may even get more gmrs stuff soon.
 

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I agree. There's always another use for it! :)


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seriously people stop thinking that the fcc will make gmrs license free. they have no plans to do so. if your using the mobiles or if someone, you or other person is using the repeater keep it running. have a little fun out there on the airwaves.
 
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If anything the FCC will most likely move to force businesses off GMRS. That would mean more profits for the big dealers, and more air time for the rest of us.
 

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UNTIL the FCC does something to change GMRS, it's STILL business as usual. If you want to unload your equipment, I know there will be a lot of people who will gladly take your stuff off your hands, but, I for one, am not getting rid of anything - just the opposite, I added a sweat XTS2500 UHF to my collection!
 

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Wow!! I never expected such a supportive response for GMRS!! OK, you have convinced me...together we stand! I think I will offload some repeater gear I have in the garage, as at this point it looks unlikely I will get my own repeater running, but I will hang on to the mobiles and HTs.

Dave, I hope you are right about the FCC increasing enforcement on businesses on GMRS...I have a school near my home that's using bubble pack radios on 675.

My GMRS mobiles don't accommodate 70cm amateur and the mod is a bear, besides, I am all set in the ham dept.

Thank you all for your responses! I hope this will all end favorably for GMRS!! :)

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if they are using frs then no need to worry but since 675 is gmrs instead of contacting the fcc i would send a nice letter letting them know that they are using a licensed frequency. a frequency that business definitely are not allowed on.

maybe if you decide to actually get rid of your repeater gear you could sell it here.
 

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Save the paper and the time. Program the tone and tactfully inform un-licensed users that they are on a repeater output which requires a license,then drop them the site where they can get it done!
So far,it's worked in this area. :)


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The main problem with business users on GMRS repeaters is that many of them are licensed. The FCC grandfathered them when the rules were changed. I'm hoping the Commission will sunset the grandfather provisions eventually.
 

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I don't have a repeater, but I have 2 controllers (1 new in box) and 2 duplexers (also 1 new in box) I think I'm going to sell. I didn't think about the bb here...good call.

Many thanks for all your comments & suggestions! :)
 

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From my perspective, I see Congress, "industry," and a number of lobbies pushing the FCC to put anything that uses independent communications systems on to fee-for-service networks. GMRS fills a void for local communication that is otherwise money in the pocket of cellular companies. It also provides communication in areas where it's not lucrative for a cellular company to build out and realize a return on their investment. Sadly, the FCC's "vision" of GMRS seems to overlook repeaters and our land mobile model, instead taking their cues from blister pack radio manufacturers and cellular companies who are quite content on the revenue they'll realize from every independent system they replace.

As for putting things on 70 cm, sure, it's an option, and it's a great option. The only differences between many ham machines and GMRS machines are the license and the frequencies. Amateur radio is a national treasure. But amateur radio is under attack, too. Hams recently dodged a bullet with HR-607, where Congressman Peter King and a back-room coalition sought a spectrum give-back to create a high CBO score. If this had gone down the road, a sizeable chunk of 70 cm, GMRS, all of UHF public safety, and all of UHF business would have been a "give back" and sold at auction for more network-intensive broadband solutions. People got up in arms and that particular threat went away. For now.

Won the battle but not the war. It's not safe. Senator Mark Warner may be drafting legislation with give back provisions in the Senate's Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. Be sure there are more on the horizon.

Keep your ear to the ground and be ready to make your voice heard.
 

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If that statement about Mark Warner is true then it would be good to keep an eye on him. He made his millions setting up, buying, and reselling cellular licenses, so he has some kind of "insider's" view of the radio spectrum and it might be bad news for UHF users of any type. I'm going to do some Googling of Warner in attempt to see what he's up to.
 

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From my perspective, I see Congress, "industry," and a number of lobbies pushing the FCC to put anything that uses independent communications systems on to fee-for-service networks. GMRS fills a void for local communication that is otherwise money in the pocket of cellular companies. It also provides communication in areas where it's not lucrative for a cellular company to build out and realize a return on their investment. Sadly, the FCC's "vision" of GMRS seems to overlook repeaters and our land mobile model, instead taking their cues from blister pack radio manufacturers and cellular companies who are quite content on the revenue they'll realize from every independent system they replace.

As for putting things on 70 cm, sure, it's an option, and it's a great option. The only differences between many ham machines and GMRS machines are the license and the frequencies. Amateur radio is a national treasure. But amateur radio is under attack, too. Hams recently dodged a bullet with HR-607, where Congressman Peter King and a back-room coalition sought a spectrum give-back to create a high CBO score. If this had gone down the road, a sizeable chunk of 70 cm, GMRS, all of UHF public safety, and all of UHF business would have been a "give back" and sold at auction for more network-intensive broadband solutions. People got up in arms and that particular threat went away. For now.

Won the battle but not the war. It's not safe. Senator Mark Warner may be drafting legislation with give back provisions in the Senate's Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. Be sure there are more on the horizon.

Keep your ear to the ground and be ready to make your voice heard.

All the more reason to use the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System (ECFS). They DO read the comments folks. It's just like going to vote, if you don't do your part, than you aren't part of the solution. Speaking of, offering SOLUTIONS not COMPLAINTS is the key to getting comments heard. The ECFS is an excellent way to address the commission and it does go on official public record.

The more who speak up, the more they will have to listen. The problem with the FCC today is gone are the technical minds who once graced the halls of Gettysburg. They are all lawyers who know lawyer speak. The better those comments sound to a bunch of lawyers, the more they give an ear. So use it wisely.
 
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