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[kayn1n32008]

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In BC they are generally used as chat channels, in Alberta they are likely going to be used on Radio controlled roads for traffic control.

Spend some time tuned into LAD 1 or 2 down this way if you can stand it. Might as well call them CB.

And yes "radio controlled roads" is an apt description and these channels are used for such purposes in BC as well. The gist of it is that road users are to call out their location, type of vehicle, and direction, so that they can anticipate when they will come across one another - i.e. so a B-train full of propane knows to expect a pickup truck oncoming around one of the next couple of bends in the road.

Agreed, LAD1&2 are alolike that up north here too, although if you need a road condition report, they are the channels to ask for it on!

 

[robertmac]

Agree that these LAD frequencies are filthy and are misunderstood by a lot of truckers especially in Alberta. A lot are restricted and not to be used within certain kms of cities/towns in Alberta. As Jay posted in other forums, truckers have been heard on other frequenices used by SRD in Alberta. I have heard them on Wheatland County EMS, Foothills, Crowsnest Pass EMS/Fire frequenices as well. I know a couple of the frequencies listed by Jay are used by Foothills Search and Rescue. And there was a large problem with Beaumont Fire. I guess that is why I was wondering, if Davis Trucking is in northern Alberta, if they had their own frequency or just went on to one of the LAD or Alberta open frequencies or used BC frequencies [which I believe is where LAD started].

 

[rapidcharger]

To answer the OP's question, they're using Icoms.
The majority of the portables I've seen on the show are F-3141 and I do believe they are using either the 5121 or 5061 mobiles.
I tried to look up what freq they were using on the Industry Canada website by searching for license information but was unsuccessful. It made me realize how good we have it here in the states with the ULS.

 

[Jay911]

Canada handles its licenses differently than the US does, for sure. I am learning of ways to find information that approximates the kind of useful data you get from the FCC search, using fee codes and such (on the Spectrum Direct search), but it's a far cry from being able to restrict criteria to "all public safety trunked systems" for example.

Complicating the matter is that people can rent radios from a "radiocommunication service provider" and thus not show up on licenses anywhere. I'm not saying it's the case with this towing company, but many entities in my neck of the woods won't show up on licenses because they are operating under the license of the local radio shop's rental radios, which are licensed for a whole swath of itinerant and similar frequencies.

 

[dwc]

These seem to be the most popular in BC from my experience;

Ladd 1 154.1000
Ladd 2 158.9400
Ladd 3 154.3250
Ladd 4 173.3700
Arrow North 155.1900
Black water 160.1400
Giscome 159.750
Kicker 153.320
Platue 1 153.635
Platue 2 151.655
Polar 1 153.530
Polar 2 151.985

Granted there are a lot of morons on the Ladd channels they have certainly helped with road safety in this province. CB just doesn't cut it on our roads...

 

[dwc]

Agree that these LAD frequencies are filthy and are misunderstood by a lot of truckers especially in Alberta. A lot are restricted and not to be used within certain kms of cities/towns in Alberta. As Jay posted in other forums, truckers have been heard on other frequenices used by SRD in Alberta. I have heard them on Wheatland County EMS, Foothills, Crowsnest Pass EMS/Fire frequenices as well. I know a couple of the frequencies listed by Jay are used by Foothills Search and Rescue. And there was a large problem with Beaumont Fire. I guess that is why I was wondering, if Davis Trucking is in northern Alberta, if they had their own frequency or just went on to one of the LAD or Alberta open frequencies or used BC frequencies [which I believe is where LAD started].

Indeed;

http://members.shaw.ca/ve6tmk/truckwest.html

Glad to see the trucking community addressing the problem.

 

[KB7MIB]

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Ok, so "radio controlled roads" aren't major highways, they're the unpaved logging and mine roads, correct? And the general public generally wouldn't have a two-way radio with these channels in it, correct?

 

[kayn1n32008]

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These seem to be the most popular in BC from my experience;

Ladd 1 154.1000
Ladd 2 158.9400
Ladd 3 154.3250
Ladd 4 173.3700
Arrow North 155.1900
Black water 160.1400
Giscome 159.750
Kicker 153.320
Platue 1 153.635
Platue 2 151.655
Polar 1 153.530
Polar 2 151.985

Granted there are a lot of morons on the Ladd channels they have certainly helped with road safety in this province. CB just doesn't cut it on our roads...

Well put! There was a pilot project by IC, to assign a set of frequencies just for recource/logging roads. It was a collaberation between WorkSafe BC, industry, and IC. It was a bunch of. VHF frequencies with various power levels and set names. It was to address issues with random frequencies and channel names. Do you know if it has spread to othe rest of the province?

 

[kayn1n32008]

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Ok, so "radio controlled roads" aren't major highways, they're the unpaved logging and mine roads, correct? And the general public generally wouldn't have a two-way radio with these channels in it, correct?

Yes, although not so much for mines, as they usually have their own radio systems for the mine its self. The 'Basic Ten' are generally used on oilfield access roads and on logging access roads. In mines (like Suncor, or Albian north of Ft. Mc Murray AB) the owners have much more extensive radio systems for their operations/safety. Some of them are operating 800/900/400MHz trunk systems that are used for road radio control, in addition to safety, maintainence, and other general mine ops.

In the Cold Lake Air Weapons Range north of Cold Lake AB, there is an extensive VHF repeater system used to control traffic on the ice roads (in the winter)that operates off high grade roads. Because it is an active military weapons range, the companies operating there must stay out of closed targets that have exclusion zones that vary in radius from 1nm to 10nm.

As to if the general public has radios, yes and no. If people work for industries that operate in the patch, then yes. It is not uncommon to see half wave antennas on trucks in Alberta.

 

[rapidcharger]

After seeing the pics on that other site that was linked in this thread, they're using the 5121 mobiles, at least in that pic. I could've sworn I saw 5061 in that new rotator though.

Complicating the matter is that people can rent radios from a "radiocommunication service provider" and thus not show up on licenses anywhere. I'm not saying it's the case with this towing company, but many entities in my neck of the woods won't show up on licenses because they are operating under the license of the local radio shop's rental radios, which are licensed for a whole swath of itinerant and similar frequencies.

People can do that here too.

Plus another thing to consider is the radios may be the property of the production company and licensed to them.
I'll give you one example.
Dog The Bounty Hunter, which, the last two seasons the show aired used MotoTRBO XPR6550 radios but now that the show has changed production companies, titles and networks, they're using what looks like HYT TC610 radios. You won't find a license in the FCC ULS for Da Kine Bail Bonds.

 

[dwc]

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Well put! There was a pilot project by IC, to assign a set of frequencies just for recource/logging roads. It was a collaberation between WorkSafe BC, industry, and IC. It was a bunch of. VHF frequencies with various power levels and set names. It was to address issues with random frequencies and channel names. Do you know if it has spread to othe rest of the province?

Yeah this program is slowly being expanded throughout the province. All of the frequencies are listed here;

http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/documents/Road_Radio_Project/PRC-07-1issue3-June-2010.pdf

 

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Well put! There was a pilot project by IC, to assign a set of frequencies just for recource/logging roads. It was a collaberation between WorkSafe BC, industry, and IC. It was a bunch of. VHF frequencies with various power levels and set names. It was to address issues with random frequencies and channel names. Do you know if it has spread to othe rest of the province?

Yeah this program is slowly being expanded throughout the province. All of the frequencies are listed here;

http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/documents/Road_Radio_Project/PRC-07-1issue3-June-2010.pdf

I see that IC has added a bunch of frequencies to the original set. I wonder why it is taking so long to make this province wide

 

[rapidcharger]

Your willingness to recognize a problem and put in place a detailed, yet straight-forward system to effectively solve that problem up there, never ceases to amaze me.

 

[kayn1n32008]

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Your willingness to recognize a problem and put in place a detailed, yet straight-forward system to effectively solve that problem up there, never ceases to amaze me.

The only problem with that is that EVERYBODY uses VHF in BC, asides from the Fraser Valley/lower mainland. While looking at that document, I say some others, I believe this is the result of a work place death somewhere around Prince George. I did not dig into the Coroner Inquest stuff but there are a bunch of newspaper articles about a lack of safety supervision, speed enforcement, lack of proper milage calling and dangerous logging roads. BC is making progress. Here in Alberta it is general practice to call 'empty' on resource roads as milage increases and 'loaded' on roads as milage decreases. BUT there are exceptions to this rule. Worksafe BC, IC, and MOFR are trying to create a uniform system for ALL resource roads in BC to try and prevent accidents from happening. To get to here though, sadly, people have had to die for changes to happen.

 

[dwc]

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I see that IC has added a bunch of frequencies to the original set. I wonder why it is taking so long to make this province wide

This isn't something they can implement overnight. I assume driver education, replacing old burnt out wideband radios, writing new documentation and replacing all of the signs takes quite a bit of effort.

 

[walruspwaterhead]

High on that mountain would be a great place for a radio shack. also since this towing company also has a fire engine and a rescue truck is it possible they are on this network ?

E-Comm (WARS) Trunking System, Vancouver, British Columbia - Scanner Frequencies

 

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High on that mountain would be a great place for a radio shack. also since this towing company also has a fire engine and a rescue truck is it possible they are on this network ?

E-Comm (WARS) Trunking System, Vancouver, British Columbia - Scanner Frequencies

Uh, no. That system only goes as far west as Abbotsford. Hope is an hour west, then you go east from Hope into the mountains. Everything out that way, aside from Cellular is VHF. It is a fire engine outfitted as a support truck for towing/recovery of heavy trucks/trailers.

 

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I see that IC has added a bunch of frequencies to the original set. I wonder why it is taking so long to make this province wide

This isn't something they can implement overnight. I assume driver education, replacing old burnt out wideband radios, writing new documentation and replacing all of the signs takes quite a bit of effort.

Agreed dwc, I am suprised they went narrowband, lots of people are, illegally, running ham gear, even here in Alberta. It will take time, but I believe it is needed. There is one company, out near Drayton Valley, that insists on having their A/R be reverse to the loaded/empty convention, and it just doesnot make sense to me. What irks me is that they are using frequencies that they are not licensed for, and one of them is specifically NOT legal as a resource road channel in Alberta.

 

[awstott]

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Uh, no. That system only goes as far west as Abbotsford. Hope is an hour west, then you go east from Hope into the mountains. Everything out that way, aside from Cellular is VHF. It is a fire engine outfitted as a support truck for towing/recovery of heavy trucks/trailers.

They actually picked up a real engine on this season. The rescue truck is pretty much a mobile crew truck where you can go to warm up and have a coffee and grab any extra supplies. It's not on the road this season.

 

[SCPD]

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/touch/story.html?id=9145244