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So, Real or Not
I think it's real.

The online feeding frenzy about the TH-D75 seems to have started with a photo/video that an employee of a prominent amateur radio dealer posted on Facebook and Twitter yesterday. The photo/video showed a placard on display at the Kenwood booth as it was being set up for Hamvention. The placard showed an image of the TH-D75 with a list of features. That amateur radio dealer posted the information on their website.

While I think the radio is real, I also don't think we'll see it before fall 2023.
 

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Gigaparts has the D75a posted on their website for notification. I have high hopes for this one.
 

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Don mentioned that the Tokyo Hamfair would be the likely event when full details will be available. That’s in August I believe, they hinted last year at the same show they had not abandoned the amateur market, with implications of handhelds first. I’m pretty excited with a renewed version, not game changing but will add life to a really good radio. It sure would be nice to have a full access TNC. I’d love to see Kenwood (or someone) develop a control app for iOS.
 

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Don mentioned that the Tokyo Hamfair would be the likely event when full details will be available. That’s in August I believe...
Translated from the JARL website: "Amateur Radio Festival Ham Fair 2023 will be held for two days on August 19th (Sat) and August 20th (Sun), 2023 at Tokyo Big Sight South Halls 3 and 4 in Ariake, Koto-ku, Tokyo."
 

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Kenwood has, in my experience as a ham, been slow to bring new products to market and slow to abandon existing products. Part of the reason is that ALL communications products are only about 25% of JVC Kenwood's business. With limited engineering, production, and marketing resources, they've been putting their efforts towards the land mobile radio market because, well, that's where the money is. Whatever resources are left, if any, go to amateur radio.

Given the specific chip shortage cause by the Asahi Kasei Microdevices (AKM) fire in October 2020 and the general electronic component shortage caused by COVID-19 related shutdowns (which went on much longer in China than the U.S.), I think Kenwood just found themselves stretched too thin. Amateur radio was the first part of the company to be temporarily "parked" while they concentrated on other things. Now that the supply chain has improved, JVCK can get back to amateur radio products.

I am hopeful that their presence at Hamvention and planned attendance at Ham Radio Friedrichshafen and Tokyo Ham Fair along with the announcement of the TH-D75 is an indication of future good things from Kenwood. Maybe a new flagship mobile radio next year followed by a new SDR-based HF radio in 2025. We can hope. But, they will never be like a certain other Japanese competitor who seems to bring out new products every month (yes, I exaggerate).
 

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D-Star failed? That is interesting because I'm on the reflectors every day and there are countless people using them not counting the people who are on and listening. I don't think D-Star is as dead as what people make it out to be. I love D-Star and use it on my ID-52 and it works perfectly and is a lot easier to access than DMR in my opinion and the opinion of many many other people.

Also, it really doesn't matter because the ability to use all the different MMDVM's out and the ability to cross-connect really makes it pointless to bash D-Star or any mode for that matter because they can all access each other. Not easily of course but give it time and people will resolve that issue. So pick your favorite and run with it. My favorite is D-Star and I love it and will continue to use it and I am very happy that they are making this new Kenwood radio D-Star as well. D-Star has not failed and is alive and well.
 

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D-Star failed? That is interesting because I'm on the reflectors every day and there are countless people using them not counting the people who are on and listening. I don't think D-Star is as dead as what people make it out to be.

Depends on the part of the country, but for the most part, yes, when you compare the number of repeaters and number of users, D-Star is dead. Just right now on Brandmeister alone, for example, there are more calls in the past 2 minutes than D-Star has had in the past 2 hours, and that's just one network!

For whatever reason, Kenwood continues to try to push D-Star. Imagine a nice dual or tri-band radio with D-Star, NXDN, DMR, and P25. Guaranteed it would sell like hotcakes. They're already doing it in their commercial gear. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to put the same technology in an amateur radio. But nope...they just basically just push out a new version of the same old radios.
 

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D-Star is very popular in Japan and for whom the inclusion of such on the D74 and D75 was very intentional. I am happy that they did not forget the USA and we got 1.25 meters out of those handhelds.

Here are two documents from 2011 and 2022 showing the D-Star repeater increase.
2011 - http://www.d-star.jp/D-STARjapan.pdf
2022 - http://www.d-star.jp/D-STARjapanMap.pdf

NXDN? How many amateur NXDN repeaters are there? P25 and DMR radios are inexpensive. Why compete with that? Many amateurs will settle with garbage DMR radios. Should that be the direction Kenwood should focus?
 

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While the D75 looks like a really nice radio I won't be purchasing it, as have no interest in D-Star.

We do a few D-Star repeaters in my local area mostly used by the emergency services groups of ham radio, but are open to all hams to use when not needed.

Going forward DMR is where it's at here in most of Maryland, Delaware and parts of Southern Pennsylvania. The folks have a great DMR repeater network in which can hit via an HT all in my delivery route areas.
Plus they are standing up new DMR repeaters faster than can reprogram all my radios.
 

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NXDN? How many amateur NXDN repeaters are there? P25 and DMR radios are inexpensive. Why compete with that? Many amateurs will settle with garbage DMR radios. Should that be the direction Kenwood should focus?
Why? Because there are no purpose-designed amateur radios that support all those modes in one radio, and there would be A LOT of interest. Kenwood has already developed the technology. It would presumably be fairly easy for them to port that into an amateur radio. It's not like they're starting from scratch.

I use commercial gear, but a dual or tri-band all-mode, coupled with the ease of the amateur features...VFO, etc.? That would certainly get me thinking about buying one. In fact, I would absolutely buy one. Another analog/D-Star radio? Interest is probably lost on most people right from the start.
 

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Kenwood has already developed the technology. It would presumably be fairly easy for them to port that into an amateur radio. It's not like they're starting from scratch.
THIS!
While not multi band, I really think the NX1200/1300 portables and 1700/1800 series mobiles would do really well. I don't think it would be more than a ham firmware version re-write and some ham friendly menu functions on the keypad membrane/buttons to make an extremely versatile multimode lineup.
 

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THIS!
While not multi band,
I really think the NX1200/1300 portables and 1700/1800 series mobiles would do really well. I don't think it would be more than a ham firmware version re-write and some ham friendly menu functions on the keypad membrane/buttons to make an extremely versatile multimode lineup.

Single band, yes. I've got a bunch of users on NX-1300's and the size is right for ham use. Not too big, no overly cumbersome, suitable for average person use. Price is respectable, also.

I think the issue is that most new hams are convinced they need to have at least dual band, or they just aren't cool. I think very few of us hams are content with a single band radio.

As for multiband, Kenwood/EFJ doesn't have any dual band single piece radios. Most hams could not stomach the cost of a VP8000.
 

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Most hams could not stomach the cost of a VP8000.
Understatement of the year. A crowd mostly content with Anytone, Cotre, and any number of Chinese system on a chip rigs. 🤪

Getting a modern multi-band commercial HT with all the interesting entitlements, software and cables hurts just about anybody’s wallet unless they got taxpayers footing the bill.

I’ll bide my time like the miser I am. Nothing wrong with XTS/XTLs or 1st/2nd/2.5gen XPRs.
 
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