Killeen 380mhz?

[BaLa]

I went to the Job Fair on Ft. Hood today.
I had both my 96 and 396. (No Laptop of course).

Put the 96 in Search Mode.
Found a P25 CC on 380.075
It came up as Site 101


I believe the WACN is 28a86 and Sys ID SY046

I programmed it in the 396 and couldnt pick anything up...It wouldn't need custom tables or would it?
Searched the rest of the 380 - 390 couldn't find anything else.


Maybe a new system for Ft. Hood?....No idea....
I can pick it up a little at home..gonna try and run Pro96Com but dunno...decode stays around 0.

<edit>
Home made dipole...is working wonders outside...well compared to the RS800
I'll be able to run Pro96Com from home.

 

[BaLa]

(updated 8pm 1/23)
Radio IDs
1001002,"TG: 101 DT: 1/23/08@14:38",1201131679,"01/23/2008 @ 17:41"
1001005,"TG: 101 DT: 1/23/08@14:37",1201128804,"01/23/2008 @ 16:53"
1001011,"TG: 101 DT: 1/23/08@14:35",1201121213,"01/23/2008 @ 14:46"
1001017,"TG: 102 DT: 1/23/08@17:23",1201131668,"01/23/2008 @ 17:41"
9999995,"TG: 9999996 DT: 1/23/08@13:59",1201132606,"01/23/2008 @ 17:56"

TGs
101,50,"T: 101 DT: 1/23/08@14:35",1201131679,"01/23/2008 @ 17:41",1201120513,"01/23/2008 @ 14:35","#000000","#000000"
102,50,"T: 101 DT: 1/23/08@14:43",1201130626,"01/23/2008 @ 17:23",1201120992,"01/23/2008 @ 14:43","#000000","#000000"

Tower 0101
System ID : 046
System Name :
WACN : 28A86
Tower Number (Decimal): 101
Tower Number (Hex) : T0101
Tower Description : (null)
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s) : Unknown
Timestamp : Wed Jan 23 18:33:41 2008

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth
00,380.00000,0.01250,10.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency,Input Frequency
"00-0006","c",380.07500,390.07500
"00-0022","vp",380.27500,390.27500
"00-0035","vp",380.43750,390.43750
"00-0041","vp",380.51250,390.51250
"00-0048","vp",380.60000,390.60000
"00-0061","vp",380.76250,390.76250
"00-0073","vp",380.91250,390.91250
"00-0077","vp",380.96250,390.96250
"00-0085","vp",381.06250,391.06250
"00-0095","vp",381.18750,391.18750
"00-0097","vp",381.21250,391.21250
"00-0110","vp",381.37500,391.37500
"00-0124","vp",381.55000,391.55000
"00-0134","vp",381.67500,391.67500
"00-0136","vp",381.70000,391.70000
"00-0148","vp",381.85000,391.85000
"00-0150","vp",381.87500,391.87500

 

[mikeh]

yes 380 system going in

read this Fort Hood Selects Tyco Electronics' M/A-COM To Implement $7.6 Million Project 25 TRS

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LOWELL, Mass. - Jan. 14, 2008 - Tyco Electronics announced today that its M/A-COM business, a worldwide leader of critical radio communications systems, has been awarded a $7.6 million contract by the U.S. Army to deploy its Project 25IP (P25 to the power of IP) trunked radio communications system at Fort Hood, Texas. Fort Hood is the home base of the US Army's 1st Cavalry Division and the 4th Infantry Division. The new trunked system will be a four-site, 49-channel system on the 380-400 Mhz band and will support more than 2,100 users over the 395 square miles occupied by the U.S. Army facility.


"We are extremely pleased to continue to support U.S. Army bases around the country with their critical communications needs," said Chris Fauser, regional sales manager, Tyco Electronics. "All of us here at Tyco Electronics fully understand the distinctive needs of Army personnel and the first responders located at these facilities, and we are proud to work with Fort Hood to address those needs and exceed the high expectations of this historic facility."


The P25IP communications system at Fort Hood features Information Assurance and OTAP (Over-the-Air Programming) capabilities for secure communications and easy configuration. This communication system also includes a HA-NSS (High Availability Network Switching Server) to ensure that voice and data messages are delivered only to the radio sites that are necessary to reach the destined mobile subscribers.


The M/A-COM P25IP radio system meets the National Telecommunications and Information Administration's (NTIA) narrowband mandate and also satisfies the Department of Defense policy for P25 compliance. The M/A-COM digital P25IP radio communication system combines the benefits of an IP-based network-centric solution with the standard common air interface of P25. Additionally, P25IP provides interoperable communications via NetworkFirst, the M/A-COM network solution that interconnects existing radio communications systems for interoperability based on routine and emergency needs.


The M/A-COM P25IP communications system is part of the M/A-COM VIDA (Voice Interoperability Data Access) network, which is deployed at a number of sites around the country. The M/A-COM VIDA network platform is a cost-effective, IP-based interoperable radio communications technology that supports P25 and other IP-based systems. It provides a full IP management platform including interoperability without intervention of console operators, IP consoles, networking technology for both the P25 phase I and P25 phase II standards, plus many other benefits inherent in open IP architecture systems.

 

[BaLa]

Thanks also found this at BellandCoryellCo Yahoo Group.

Not sure when this system first showed up?
But that seems like a pretty good turn around time..
9 days or better..


Also was able to hear some voice testing on TG 101.

I am running into some problems with the decode quality..seems like it went waay down since it got dark..and Pro96Com is no longer able to decode the CC.
Will have to mess with it some more tommorow.

Quick..
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=5738

 

[kd5dga]

Is it a Motorola or EDACS system?

 

[BaLa]

Is it a Motorola or EDACS system?

Well P25.
M/A Com I guess..


For the 396.
Program it as MOT P25.

Not sure on the 996 I think it'd be same.
If not, it should be JUST P25 (which is what it REALLY is anyways)
I'm in West Temple.
So anything closer should be able to pick it up with a decent antenna.
I took the VHF of my car and replaced it again with the UHF and it works great also.

I'm not picking it up as well as before it got dark at home though.

 

[hiegtx]

For the 396.
Program it as MOT P25.

Not sure on the 996 I think it'd be same.
If not, it should be JUST P25 (which is what it REALLY is anyways)
.

On the 996, create the system initially (in Uniden's UASD) as Motorola Type 2/P25.
Then, in the site settings, select P25 from the drop down menu within the site edit box.

 

[kd5dga]

If the scanner is showing you frequencies then it Motorola. This maybe from Ft. Hood like you mentioned. The ARMY has been for the past few years experimenting with portable trunked radio systems. Two years ago a narrowband 4 channel EDACS show up on the 400 mhz band for a few months, then disapeared when the unit deployed. This maybe something in the same order.
Keep a eye on it.
By the way, what is the control channel frequency?

 

[BaLa]

Did you miss that in my first post?
380.075

 

[loumaag]

If the scanner is showing you frequencies then it Motorola.

It is a Project 25 system, it is not a Motorola system (they have nothing to do with each other). If the other assumptions (ref the new contract) are to be believed it will be a Project 25 system installed by MA-COM.

This maybe from Ft. Hood like you mentioned. The ARMY has been for the past few years experimenting with portable trunked radio systems. Two years ago a narrowband 4 channel EDACS show up on the 400 mhz band for a few months, then disapeared when the unit deployed. This maybe something in the same order.
Keep a eye on it.
By the way, what is the control channel frequency?

Since he was on Ft. Hood when he first picked it up (where he told you the CCh) Ft. Hood is probable. Then went home (I assume) to run Pro96Com (that is the readout he later posted) it tells you it is a Project 25 system and gives you everything you could possibly need to monitor the system, including the table settings for a Pro96/2096; since the Uniden radios don't need such table settings (they get it from the data stream), you have all the information you need if you are close enough to help identifying the TG's.

Please note (based on the Pro96Com data supplied) that Uniden radios will incorrectly display the radio ID's (some/all) because of the bug they have in reference to RID's on P25 systems when the true RID is above 65534.

Ref that bug, Paul if you read this, any progress yet?

EDIT: I was composing while BaLa answered the first part.

 

[BaLa]

I really can't pick it up tooo good from home. I suppose that will change when they start splitting the system into 4 sites, or add some other sites to it on different frequencies.

Dunno where the site is located though.

 

[WP4MZR]

Bala , the cc source is about 22 miles from you. I went hunting today.

 

[kd5dga]

I can hear the control channel from my location, North of Nolanville up on the hill near Franklin Minerals. However the control channel either floats to different frequencies or they are still testing the system.Its on and off .

 

[BaLa]

steady but weak here..

I'm pretty sure they're still testing...
thats all the voice traffic I've heard so far yesterday.. (TESTING 1-2-3)

I haven't had time to monitor today though, I was at the workforce in Killeen all day...


decode is between 10 -18

 

[BaLa]

Bala , the cc source is about 22 miles from you. I went hunting today.

That's not very good..for it to be weak..

Is it on Ft. Hood?

 

[kaanohi]

how would you program this into xts5000

 

[BaLa]

how would you program this into xts5000

LOL No Clue
Never had one....

Is yours even the right bandsplit?
I wouldn't mess around with that anyways.

Just go buy a 396t..

 

[kaanohi]

Yes the band split for the xts is 380-470. I put all the freqs into it, set conventional mode to astro. Radio has been on for a couple of days. so far heard nothing, the cc is breaking squelch. Do I need to change the nac? I GUESS THE QUESTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONVENTIONAL ASTRO OR TRUNKING IN ASTRO MODE. I&#8217;m in the military and they have issued us ef Johnson same band split mentioned above for squad radios working on getting those freqs

 

[WP4MZR]

That's not very good..for it to be weak..

Is it on Ft. Hood?

Yes, it is.

How high is your dipole?

 

[BaLa]

Yes, it is.

How high is your dipole?

Maybe 6.5 to 7ft.

I don't have a lot of options, I live in a dowstairs appartment.