LA County UHF narrow?

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Is there a good, hopefully ongoing, source for which LA county channels remain wideband (i.e., nominal 25 kHz channel spacing, 5 kHz dev)? Is our page currently accurate?
 

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Only a true insider will know if the T-Band channels went narrowband on an agency by agency basis

Altho UHF was required as was UHF-T, as the dates got closer T-Band was exempted
yet many agencies had already obtained $$ to touch each radio, others decided to wait it out.

So, the answer is YMMV but for programming a Scanner, see what sounds best for your ears.
Is there a good, hopefully ongoing, source for which LA county channels remain wideband (i.e., nominal 25 kHz channel spacing, 5 kHz dev)? Is our page currently accurate?
 

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Next week I can measure the deviation of several LASD transmissions and tell if they are wide or narrow band.

Only a true insider will know if the T-Band channels went narrowband on an agency by agency basis

Altho UHF was required as was UHF-T, as the dates got closer T-Band was exempted
yet many agencies had already obtained $$ to touch each radio, others decided to wait it out.

So, the answer is YMMV but for programming a Scanner, see what sounds best for your ears.
 

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It can be difficult to measure, either with a service monitor or by ear, for a couple of reasons. One is that many of the SCC dispatchers just don't speak up. I see peak deviation of less than 1 kHz from some of them. Hard to tell if 1 kHz is 40% of 2.5 kHz or 20% of 5 kHz (or 25% of 4 kHz). :) The mobiles can be better, but it can take a while to find traffic on channels that repeat them or be close enough to hear them on the dispatch input. We know the numbered dispatch and L-TACs are all narrow – it's more about the other TACs, parks, TSB, tunnels, MA, custody, etc.
 

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Yes I know it can take awhile and I would monitor both base and mobile to determine deviation. Too bad an LASD friend of mine retired, I could have measured his radio with my service monitor or possibly pulled the code plug to see how its programmed.


It can be difficult to measure, either with a service monitor or by ear, for a couple of reasons. One is that many of the SCC dispatchers just don't speak up. I see peak deviation of less than 1 kHz from some of them. Hard to tell if 1 kHz is 40% of 2.5 kHz or 20% of 5 kHz (or 25% of 4 kHz). :) The mobiles can be better, but it can take a while to find traffic on channels that repeat them or be close enough to hear them on the dispatch input. We know the numbered dispatch and L-TACs are all narrow – it's more about the other TACs, parks, TSB, tunnels, MA, custody, etc.
 

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I could be wrong, but I believe the department switched out all the dispatch, l-tac, a-tac repeaters a couple years ago and also switched all those frequencies to narrowband.

It won't matter soon anyways, the whole department will be on the trunked system soon enough.
 

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I could be wrong, but I believe the department switched out all the dispatch, l-tac, a-tac repeaters a couple years ago and also switched all those frequencies to narrowband.

It won't matter soon anyways, the whole department will be on the trunked system soon enough.
Right, and a lot will be encrypted, including L-Tacs and A-Tacs :(
 

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Regarding: " It can be difficult to measure, either with a service monitor or by ear, for a couple of reasons. One is that many of the SCC dispatchers just don't speak up. I see peak deviation of less than 1 kHz from some of them. Hard to tell if 1 kHz is 40% of 2.5 kHz or 20% of 5 kHz (or 25% of 4 kHz)."

Cant you just measure the deviation of the tone/code during voices pauses? 0.7-1 KHZ = wide band and 1/2 that narrowband?
 
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