MitchS
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Does anyone know when LL3 will change over to the ARMER system and does anyone have info on them?? I don't know much about LL3, but I do know a lot about Air Care.
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MNRotrMedic
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Hey Mitch~
First off, welcome to the forums!
I believe that i read somewhere that Life Link was strongly considering moving to the ARMER system but they have a couple of hurdles in their way.
Life Link is currently under contract with the radio service providers at their helispots in the Metro, St Cloud, and Hutchinson. Once those contracts are terminated they'll be free and clear to do what they like but then they run into the issues of ARMER coverage which is likely to delay North Air Care's transition to ARMER as well. Of Life Link's three helispots only two are currently under the ARMER umbrella. Hutchinson is still quite some time away from effective ARMER coverage to my understanding.
I'm anxiously awaiting Life Link's transition just as i'm waiting for my local ambulance service (Gold Cross) to go to ARMER full time.
First off, welcome to the forums!
I believe that i read somewhere that Life Link was strongly considering moving to the ARMER system but they have a couple of hurdles in their way.
Life Link is currently under contract with the radio service providers at their helispots in the Metro, St Cloud, and Hutchinson. Once those contracts are terminated they'll be free and clear to do what they like but then they run into the issues of ARMER coverage which is likely to delay North Air Care's transition to ARMER as well. Of Life Link's three helispots only two are currently under the ARMER umbrella. Hutchinson is still quite some time away from effective ARMER coverage to my understanding.
I'm anxiously awaiting Life Link's transition just as i'm waiting for my local ambulance service (Gold Cross) to go to ARMER full time.
ecarland
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How do you listen to LL3 currently? I see this under Stearns County Granite Electronics System as [highlight]Dec. 0-02-208[/highlight] with system frequencies of 451.31250, 452.16250, and 452.73750 but how do you program these into the scanner? I know how to program ARMER system but not this type of system is different when entering the decimal numbers.
MitchS
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The only scanner I have that will trunk is the Pro-2052 and once Lakeville and the rest of Dakota County switch then I will get one of the scanners that can track the ARMER system.
I currently only listen to North Air Care, but can't get LL3 because of them being on the Ancom system.
The only scanner I have that will trunk is the Pro-2052 and once Lakeville and the rest of Dakota County switch then I will get one of the scanners that can track the ARMER system.
I currently only listen to North Air Care, but can't get LL3 because of them being on the Ancom system.
The Life Link system, at least the one used in the cities, is a LTR system i believe is what its called. the Radio shack scanners cannot track these. The Unidens can. I listen to LL down here, they're pretty active.
MNRotrMedic
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ecarland~
tracking the LTR system here in St Cloud is dependent on which scanner you're using. The Radio Shack Digital Scanners will not track an LTR system. Uniden's digital offerings are all capable of tracking LTR.
tracking the LTR system here in St Cloud is dependent on which scanner you're using. The Radio Shack Digital Scanners will not track an LTR system. Uniden's digital offerings are all capable of tracking LTR.
hobbyhoser175
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The RadioShack Pro-97 will scan LTR. I listen to them in the Metro often.
mmtstc
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I asked Kelly Sprat, lifeLink III's COO about their intentions with the ARMER system. He said that theya re runnign into the same issues that just about every other Private EMS service in Minnesota is Running into; It is nearly Impossible for EMS to get Grants. Public works in BFE Minnesota and Metro Transit can get on the system, but Paramedics and EMTs can only get on if their company has the money laying around to make the conversion. From how Kelly Explained things to me, LifeLink will make the conversion as a whole, which means that they will also bring the Ground units over to ARMER at the same time so they will have the added cost of that.
The other issue that Air EMS providers have to deal with is finding a radio that meets their needs that is FAA approved. Air EMS needs to have a radio that is Wide and Narrow Band capable, P25 Capable, UHF, VHF, 800, 800 Trunked and a couple of other things so that they can deal with all of their customers. All of you need to understand that Aviation radios are only pushing out about 5 watts. most VHF mobile radios in Squads, Fire trucks and ambualnces are pushing out abotu 110 to 150 watts, ARMER mobiles put out less than 25 watts i believe. The other day i heard Mayo One calling themselves clear of north memorial and they are able to reach Rochester (90 miles away) crystal clear with those 5 watts. When you get the reception that helicopters do, they may be able to pick up ARMER Control Channels in St. Cloud and Rochester at the same time which would overload the front end processors in their radios quite quickly creating a $30,000 to $40,000 boat anchor. The Avaionics radios have to be set up specifically to either speak to only certain Control Channels or Ignore other Frequencies which makes it quite difficult and expensive.
The other issue that Air EMS providers have to deal with is finding a radio that meets their needs that is FAA approved. Air EMS needs to have a radio that is Wide and Narrow Band capable, P25 Capable, UHF, VHF, 800, 800 Trunked and a couple of other things so that they can deal with all of their customers. All of you need to understand that Aviation radios are only pushing out about 5 watts. most VHF mobile radios in Squads, Fire trucks and ambualnces are pushing out abotu 110 to 150 watts, ARMER mobiles put out less than 25 watts i believe. The other day i heard Mayo One calling themselves clear of north memorial and they are able to reach Rochester (90 miles away) crystal clear with those 5 watts. When you get the reception that helicopters do, they may be able to pick up ARMER Control Channels in St. Cloud and Rochester at the same time which would overload the front end processors in their radios quite quickly creating a $30,000 to $40,000 boat anchor. The Avaionics radios have to be set up specifically to either speak to only certain Control Channels or Ignore other Frequencies which makes it quite difficult and expensive.
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