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wolverine

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I'm looking to get my technician license and then get a D-Star radio, I'm not new to radio's, I've been involved in GMRS in the past and programmed many Motorola radio's. I have a basic understanding on radio's, but not so much on basic electronics question's on the test. My grandfather had a license and so does my father, however i want my getting a license to be a surprise to my father, so i need your help.

My goal is to take the test in one month, I'm not going to go out and buy any book's or video study guides because i don't have the money for it since I'm out of work while I'm going through the firefighter academy at a tech school.

Could anyone recommend any web sites and sources for online video's that are free to help me get my technician license?

My understanding is that theirs a new question pool which went into effect on July 1, 2010
 

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The site I always recommend is W8MHB. I like that it lets you test on specific sections that you might be having a problem with. It's a very well-done site. Don't let the electronics stuff scare you. It's very basic on the Tech exam. You only need to know a couple of formulas and be able to recognize some schematic symbols.

I'm in instructor and VE so I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you might have.
 

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Really the tech is pretty easy, I did the online tests for a week, read half the book and passed it. There is very little electronics in the old pool, I'm not familiar with the new one, sorry.
The General is kicking my butt! I hope to take and pass it this weekend, but I'm not feeling all that confident about it yet.
Good luck and as with DOOD,I'll help as best I can as well.
 

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Thanks for the replies, i found some videos on You Tube that are helping out. There is a local club that states they will have a test this Thursday, I'm going to try a get ready for this day.
 

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The General is kicking my butt! I hope to take and pass it this weekend, but I'm not feeling all that confident about it yet.
I actually teach the General exam for upgrades, not the Tech. What area(s) are you struggling with?
 

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Mainly right now the freqs which are phone vs. CW, lots of numbers to have to know! I'm learning the electrical side better, I was OK with electronics, but never played with an NPN transistor before, didn't care what was the reason they used a specific capacitor etc. Just a lot to have to cram in this old brain of mine LOL!
 

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Here's how I try to get people to remember the bands and freq ranges:

Think about harmonics. Starting at 160M the range is 1800-2000. So if we turn the start into 1.8 and double it we get 3.6 which is very close to the 80M range. Double 3.6 and you get 7.2 which is right at the 40M range. Double that and you get 14.4 which is right around the 20M range. Double 14.4 and get 28.8 which is near the 10M range.

There are cases like 30M which don't fall into this paradigm but it works for the most part. For some bands you just have to remember certain things. For example, 17M is 18MHz. Double 12M to get 24MHz. Does that help any?

So we just learned that 12M x 2 = 24MHz so

G1A06 [97.301(d)]
Which of the following frequencies is in the 12 meter band?
A. 3.940 MHz
B. 12.940 MHz
C. 17.940 MHz
D. 24.940 MHz

But what about questions like these?

G1A07 [97.301(d)]
Which of the following frequencies is within the General class portion of the 75
meter phone band?
A. 1875 kHz
B. 3750 kHz
C. 3900 kHz
D. 4005 kHz
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G1A08 [97.301(d)]
Which of the following frequencies is within the General Class portion of the 20
meter phone band?
A. 14005 kHz
B. 14105 kHz
C. 14305 kHz
D. 14405 kHz

In the first one we learned how to figure out where 75/80M is which lets us eliminate A and D. Now we just have to remember a little more to know that it's 3800 to 4000 since we're talking about the phone band. which guides us to C. In the second, whoa! We know that 20M is 14 something, but we can't eliminate ANY of these that way. But...

Remember that the data portion is always in the lower portion of the band. So we can look for other patterns. Looking at the band chart we see that 25 is a popular number. The low end of the band for 80 is 3525. For 40M it's 7025. 20M is 14,025. See the pattern. So A is lower than the lower limit, and D is over the upper. B is legal for 20M but it's on the low end of the band so it must not be open to phone. That leaves us with C.

Really hope this is helping. It's harder than I thought to explain in written form. :)

Moving on, let's remember one very important thing. Most PSK is found around 070. That would be 7070, 14070, etc. That fact lets us answer a couple more questions because PSK is data.

G2E04
Which of the following 20 meter band segments is most often used for most data
transmissions?
A. 14.000 - 14.050 MHz
B. 14.070 - 14.100 MHz
C. 14.150 - 14.225 MHz
D. 14.275 - 14.350 MHz

G2E08
What segment of the 80 meter band is most commonly used for data transmissions?
A. 3570 – 3600 kHz
B. 3500 – 3525 kHz
C. 3700 – 3750 kHz
D. 3775 – 3825 kHz

G2E09
Where are PSK signals generally found on the 20 meter band?
A. In the low end of the phone band
B. In the high end of the phone band
C. In the weak signal portion of the band
D. Around 14.070 MHz

Now that we know how to get is the ballpark for band ranges we can answer even more questions.

G3B01 (B)
Which band should offer the best chance for a successful contact if the maximum
usable frequency (MUF) between the two stations is 22 MHz?
A. 10 meters
B. 15 meters
C. 20 meters
D. 40 meters

22MHz is the MAXIMUM we're looking for. Well, with our little harmonics info from above we know that 40M is 7MHz which is far from 22 so it's not D. 20M = 14. 10M is so close to CB that we know it's 28. So if it's between 10M and 20M that leaves us with 15M or B.

I'm going to stop here to make sure I'm not confusing you more. Hopefully it's not too late. ;-)
 

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No, that's good stuff! The .070 really clicked for me! That is a "base line" I can understand! This is good! Thank you!
 

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D00D... I have my General license and am still lost after reading that! Much respect for how you always help people, just poking fun!

What always helps me remember meter -to- frequency to get in the ballpark is 300/frequency=wavelength and 300/wavelength=frequency. From there, knowing that data and cw is generally in the lower portion, voice in the upper portion, helps get those answers.

One equation that is also helpful is replacing the "300" in those formulas with "2800" for getting quarter wavelengths in inches.

300/146.2=2.052 (2 meter band)
2800/146.2=19.152 (inches a 1/4 wave antenna is)

The other kicker is how to get between amps, resistance, volts, and watts... If you can remember how to find them in one direction, the other direction is literally the exact opposite:

resistance X amps = volts (volts / amps = resistance and volts / resistance = amps)
amps X volts = watts (watts / volts = amps and watts / amps = volts)



I hope this helps!
 

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D00D... I have my General license and am still lost after reading that! Much respect for how you always help people, just poking fun!
Maybe I shouldn't post too late at night. :-D I do usually have pretty (ok, well, drawn on a napkin) notes that I can show someone. It worked for my mom and she's in her 70s. No pressure. :p

What always helps me remember meter -to- frequency to get in the ballpark is 300/frequency=wavelength and 300/wavelength=frequency. From there, knowing that data and cw is generally in the lower portion, voice in the upper portion, helps get those answers.
Freq formulas are soooooo overrated. ;-)

The other kicker is how to get between amps, resistance, volts, and watts... If you can remember how to find them in one direction, the other direction is literally the exact opposite:

resistance X amps = volts (volts / amps = resistance and volts / resistance = amps)
amps X volts = watts (watts / volts = amps and watts / amps = volts)
That's one great thing. You can learn a couple of formulas and figure out a lot of stuff. For voltage (E), current (I), and resistance (R) you can remember that the Eagle flies over the Indian and the Rabbit.

E
_________
I * R

With simple substitution you can calculate the missing variable. 50 volts and 2 amps = 25 ohms. There are a few power questions but that's just more substitution.

P
_________
I * E

2 amps and 25 volts = 2 x 25 = 50W. But what if they give you 2 amps and 25 ohms and ask for power? Well, you know that to find power you need to know current and voltage. So you first solve for voltage:

E = 2A x 25Ω = 50V

And plug that into your power formula:

P = 2A x 50V = 100W

Ahhh, I miss this stuff. It's really time for another class. I've actually been wanting to teach an online upgrade course but I'm spread so thin I haven't been able to bring it to fruition.
 

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This thread is a prime example of how forums can help...even a older ham. I am bookmarking this discussion to use in my own training classes.....

You guys rock.

Ko4Lloyd
 

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I meant to mention this earlier and forgot. I try to steer people towards looking for and recognizing patterns to help remember the material. For example when it comes to max PEP rather than trying to remember every individual band, you just have to remember that 1500W is the magic number for every band other than 60M (50W) and 30M (200W). So now you just have to remember 2 anomalies. So that one little bit of knowledge should help you answer G1C01, G1C02, G1C03, G1C05, and G1C06.

Question G1C04 points out another easy tip. If you're talking about power and you see an answer like "the minimum power necessary" you're almost assured that's the answer. So,

G1C04 [97.313]
What limitations, other than the 1500 watt PEP limit, are placed on transmitter power
in the 14 MHz band?
A. Only the minimum power necessary to carry out the desired communications should
be used

B. Power must be limited to 200 watts when transmitting between 14.100 MHz and
14.150 MHz
C. Power should be limited as necessary to avoid interference to another radio
service on the frequency
D. Effective radiated power cannot exceed 3000 watts

Let's see, operating procedures. Remember that below 20M you use LSB. For 20M and higher you use USB. The caveat to this is if you're using digital modes in which case you typically run USB regardless of which band you're operating on. That covers G2A01-G2A04.

Still helping?
 

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This is great! I'm going to be studying for my tech license soon and I'm saving this link! :) My dad has been a HAM for years and my mom just got her tech license last year....she swears that if she can do it at 59, I can definitely pass it! ;)
 

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My mom took a General upgrade class I was teaching last year. She was unlicensed but now she's a Tech (I had a couple of people that were unlicensed but let them join us anyway.) She was 71. I also know kids (8-11) that are licensed. No pressure. :-D
 

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My mom took a General upgrade class I was teaching last year. She was unlicensed but now she's a Tech (I had a couple of people that were unlicensed but let them join us anyway.) She was 71. I also know kids (8-11) that are licensed. No pressure. :-D

Taking my Tech test tomorrow!

73,
Elizabeth
 
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