Marine scanning or shortwave

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Is scanning or receiving with shortwave out of the question for the marine band. I would like to check it out so if there is something thats listenable would you let me know where and how. I am inland from the ocean 20 miles. I'm in North West New Jersey. Ron
 

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Yes, you can "scan" on shortwave with the proper receiver. Problem is that shortwave marine is upper sideband (USB) so there is not really a carrier to break the squelch.
 

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'Scanning' on HF really doesn't work - the noise levels vary from band to band, and any noise pulse - such as those heard from thunderstorms - would fool it into thinking there's a legitimate signal.

As to what can be heard, did you read this article - which (again) is linked off that HF article I gave you earlier?

HF Maritime Communications - The RadioReference Wiki

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I have the Grundig 750 and it has upper side band. I really don't know how to use side band as yet. Is there a trick to using it? Thanks Ron

Yes, you can "scan" on shortwave with the proper receiver. Problem is that shortwave marine is upper sideband (USB) so there is not really a carrier to break the squelch.
 

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I'm looking it over but reading is getting in my way of doing. Guess I just better do some reading and find how to set the radio. Ron
'Scanning' on HF really doesn't work - the noise levels vary from band to band, and any noise pulse - such as those heard from thunderstorms - would fool it into thinking there's a legitimate signal.

As to what can be heard, did you read this article - which (again) is linked off that HF article I gave you earlier?

HF Maritime Communications - The RadioReference Wiki

best regards..Mike
 

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Certain ICOM HF sets, most notably the original (and classic) M700, have a logic operated squelch that is based on voice recognition. Believe it or not, this function actually works, and it makes maintaining an HF watch on board actually tolerable.

In theory, mayday broadcasts in the marine world on HF would be sent on 2182 USB simplex. In real life, there is almost no one listening on 2182, and in most locales, the CG has equal or better range on 16FM. Most of the captains I know would use 6215 USB simplex if it was hitting the fan, hoping to reach one of the CAMSLANT receivers.

Such things as GMDSS, sat phones, and SelCall have all but eliminated most routine marine HF traffic. There are still a few marine nets around (usually calling on 6215 UHF simplex and shifting to one of the other ITC 6 MHz simplex channels for traffic). One thing that most of us used to listen to regularly was the daily net for offshore yachts maintained by Herb Hilgenberg (a/k/a "Southbound II"). However, Herb moved from 8 MHz to 12 MHz after Bermuda kicked him out of Hamilton, and I don't know for a fact that he has continued his much valued (and much monitored) service.

Edit: I gather Herb is still around:

South Bound II VAX498 - Ship routing and weather forecasting
 

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I have the Grundig 750 and it has upper side band. I really don't know how to use side band as yet. Is there a trick to using it? Thanks Ron

Ron, there were some extensive discussions about how one member made sideband work on the 750. It's a little flakey, as I recall, but it does work. Once again, I urge you to learn how to use the search tools. I *think* the comments were posted in the HF/MW/LW general forum but don't take that as gospel.

best regards..Mike
 
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