Moore/DPS simulcast site

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Techs have been testing the Moore site the last couple of days. I drove by the water tower today and 2 radio tech vehicles were there with someone working inside the equipment bldg. They have a control channel working from that site on 866.9250. This is a different control channel than is being used at the OKC site.
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plaws said:
OK, so what are the freqs for the new tower in Moore? They're not in the DB.
Peter they are not listed separately for some reason in the database but they are the same as OKC's 10 freqs. Since they are or will be a simulcast operation they are the same.
 
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n5bew1 said:
Peter they are not listed separately for some reason in the database but they are the same as OKC's 10 freqs. Since they are or will be a simulcast operation they are the same.

Moore And OKC are one Site. Site#8 see thread Central Oklahoma/DPS simulcast site
 

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PolarBear25 said:
Moore And OKC are one Site. Site#8 see thread Central Oklahoma/DPS simulcast site
What I am looking at is the FCC database where the 3600 N Eastern location and the Moore location are listed as separate entities for their purposes.
 
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Additional Site Information
System Name: State of Oklahoma DPS / City of Tulsa
Location: Various, Oklahoma

Site Number: 008
Site Description: Oklahoma City
Site County Location: Oklahoma
Site FCC License: KNBU457
Site Neighbors: 4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 25
Site Location: NE 36th and MLK Blvd (OKC) and NE 12th and Bryant (Moore)
Site Connect Tone: 105.88
Site Modulation: Analog and APCO-25 Digit
Site Notes: Two-Site Simulcast Subsystem
 

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PolarBear25 said:
Additional Site Information
Site Description: Oklahoma City
Site County Location: Oklahoma
Site FCC License: KNBU457
Site Neighbors: 4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 25
Site Location: NE 36th and MLK Blvd (OKC) and NE 12th and Bryant (Moore)

I never click on it! I'm sure that's the case for most visitors to the site. The listing plus the detailed listing you posted should be updated to say something like "Oklahoma City + Moore" and should list Cleveland Co as well, since I think the Moore site is south of OK Co.

Well, good. Don't have to program it separately. :)
 
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plaws said:
I never click on it! I'm sure that's the case for most visitors to the site. The listing plus the detailed listing you posted should be updated to say something like "Oklahoma City + Moore" and should list Cleveland Co as well, since I think the Moore site is south of OK Co.

Well, good. Don't have to program it separately. :)

Nope this System ( Site #8) will become The Central Oklahoma site..
 

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plaws said:
I never click on it! I'm sure that's the case for most visitors to the site. The listing plus the detailed listing you posted should be updated to say something like "Oklahoma City + Moore" and should list Cleveland Co as well, since I think the Moore site is south of OK Co.

As a matter of policy, simulcast sites are listed in the database as one site. That is because that's the way the radio sees the site. The radio cannot tell the difference between transmitter locations, because they are on the same frequency. The simulcast sites act as one giant site.

Norman, Edmond and Oklahoma City are all multiple-site simulcast systems. They are listed in the database as one site. We could list Norman as “Downtown” and “Lake Thunderbird,” but that would serve no purpose for programming radios. For those interested in the actual transmitter locations, that information (complete with a map) is available (as with any frequency in the database) by clicking the FCC license link. The Oklahoma City EDACS System has seven locations on the primary simulcast site. Again, It would make NO sense to list the locations separately.

Yes, the Moore site is in Cleveland County. However, the database is set up to locate each site in a single county. The Oklahoma City system has sites in Canadian and Cleveland Counties, yet the database shows it in Oklahoma County. This may be a weakness of the database, but it still gives a good starting point for someone looking for area frequencies.

If we were to list the site as Oklahoma City/Moore site, then what would we call it when Norman becomes part of the system? What about Edmond? Shawnee? Welcome to the Oklahoma City/Moore/Norman/Edmond/Midwest City/Yukon/Shawnee site?

I feel the real issue here is that somehow the great city of Moore is being left out of the database. This was never anyone’s intention. Obviously from discussions in the forum, the city of Moore is very much in the forefront of what's happening in the trunked radio world.

--fast2okc
 

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fast2okc said:
As a matter of policy, simulcast sites are listed in the database as one site. That is because that's the way the radio sees the site. The radio cannot tell the difference between transmitter locations, because they are on the same frequency. The simulcast sites act as one giant site.

Norman, Edmond and Oklahoma City are all multiple-site simulcast systems. They are listed in the database as one site. We could list Norman as “Downtown” and “Lake Thunderbird,” but that would serve no purpose for programming radios. For those interested in the actual transmitter locations, that information (complete with a map) is available (as with any frequency in the database) by clicking the FCC license link. The Oklahoma City EDACS System has seven locations on the primary simulcast site. Again, It would make NO sense to list the locations separately.

Yes, the Moore site is in Cleveland County. However, the database is set up to locate each site in a single county. The Oklahoma City system has sites in Canadian and Cleveland Counties, yet the database shows it in Oklahoma County. This may be a weakness of the database, but it still gives a good starting point for someone looking for area frequencies.

If we were to list the site as Oklahoma City/Moore site, then what would we call it when Norman becomes part of the system? What about Edmond? Shawnee? Welcome to the Oklahoma City/Moore/Norman/Edmond/Midwest City/Yukon/Shawnee site?

I feel the real issue here is that somehow the great city of Moore is being left out of the database. This was never anyone’s intention. Obviously from discussions in the forum, the city of Moore is very much in the forefront of what's happening in the trunked radio world.

--fast2okc
I agree 100% about your explaination there is the FCC licensing world view and the scanner user world view and most people here are rightly concerned with how to program my scanner.
 

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n5bew1 said:
I agree 100% about your explaination there is the FCC licensing world view and the scanner user world view and most people here are rightly concerned with how to program my scanner.

If that's true, then why list callsigns and other info that has no bearing on what we punch into our scanners? :D

Seriously, I understand trying to be consistent in the listings. Maybe Lindsay could add a way to denote simulcast sites in the listings. A different color for the site name or something.
 
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fast2okc said:
As a matter of policy, simulcast sites are listed in the database as one site. That is because that's the way the radio sees the site. The radio cannot tell the difference between transmitter locations, because they are on the same frequency. The simulcast sites act as one giant site.

Norman, Edmond and Oklahoma City are all multiple-site simulcast systems. They are listed in the database as one site. We could list Norman as “Downtown” and “Lake Thunderbird,” but that would serve no purpose for programming radios. For those interested in the actual transmitter locations, that information (complete with a map) is available (as with any frequency in the database) by clicking the FCC license link. The Oklahoma City EDACS System has seven locations on the primary simulcast site. Again, It would make NO sense to list the locations separately.

Yes, the Moore site is in Cleveland County. However, the database is set up to locate each site in a single county. The Oklahoma City system has sites in Canadian and Cleveland Counties, yet the database shows it in Oklahoma County. This may be a weakness of the database, but it still gives a good starting point for someone looking for area frequencies.

If we were to list the site as Oklahoma City/Moore site, then what would we call it when Norman becomes part of the system? What about Edmond? Shawnee? Welcome to the Oklahoma City/Moore/Norman/Edmond/Midwest City/Yukon/Shawnee site?

I feel the real issue here is that somehow the great city of Moore is being left out of the database. This was never anyone’s intention. Obviously from discussions in the forum, the city of Moore is very much in the forefront of what's happening in the trunked radio world.

--fast2okc

Thanks fast2okc That's what I was Trying to say..
 
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