MOSWIN TOWER ACCESS...

[rbritton1201]

I recently made a change to programming on a Uniden SDS200, and had to reprogram MSHP Troop C Metro and Rural MOSWIN towers into programming. I programmed the St. Clair and Washington MOSWIN tower sites into programming. But, I inadvertently omitted the Weldon Spring MOSWIN tower site into programming. I suspect I'm no longer receiving Metro transmissions because the Weldon Spring Tower is no longer entered into programming when I inadvertently omitted the Weldon spring MOSWIN tower site from programming. I'm not receiving "Metro" transmissions now, but I'm receiving "Rural" transmissions perfectly.

Am I correct in assuming that I'm not receiving Metro transmissions because the frequencies that the Weldon Spring MOSWIN tower receives are not programmed into the St. Clair and Washington towers? I also realize there is a maximum range that the MOSWIN towers are capable of, and I may be too far to expect reception from some of the MOSWIN Troop C towers that are too far North of where the scanner is based, which is in Union, Missouri. So, if that is correct, which of the towers in the Metro coverage area of Troop C would be advisable for me to add to programming to also receive "METRO" transmissions. I know the Weldon Spring tower reception works well, and it needs to be added back into programming. But, are there other MOSWIN tower sites North of the Weldon Spring MOSWIN tower, that should also be included in programming that are still likely to be received by the scanner when it's located in Franklin County (Union)?

Just trying better understand how the MOSWIN system works, and hope that my assumptions are correct. But, if not, I'm open to further explanation.

 

[nd5y]

Program the closest towers where the scanner will be used. That may or may not work well.

You won't hear anything at all unless there are subscriber units affiliated to the talkgroups you want to hear on towers that are close enough for you to receive.

 

[llzel]

Isn't MSHP Troop C metro encrypted? I was going to program St Louis City South Tower for MSHP metro but thought nothing would be heard. I have a Unication G4 so can't use Weldon Springs tower. Anything open on MSHP metro?

 

[rbritton1201]

I receive MSHP Metro and Rural transmissions perfectly well via a Uniden SAS200 and a Uniden BCD536HP, and they are very busy...

Isn't MSHP Troop C metro encrypted? I was going to program St Louis City South Tower for MSHP metro but thought nothing would be heard. I have a Unication G4 so can't use Weldon Springs tower. Anything open on MSHP metro?

 

[rbritton1201]

I'm receiving strong signals off of Weldon Spring, Shirley, Imperial, St. Clair, and the Lawrenceton tower. The signal strength seems to be equally strong when comparing each of them. It seems it would be slightly more efficient to scan through less towers if all of them are being received equally well with respect to signal strength. Is there a downside to pairing these down to only one or two towers?

 

[nd5y]

You can't know for sure that a particular tower will always have all the talkgroups that you want to hear all the time.
Signal strength has nothing to do with it. See the second paragraph in post #2 above.

 

[kruser]

Isn't MSHP Troop C metro encrypted? I was going to program St Louis City South Tower for MSHP metro but thought nothing would be heard. I have a Unication G4 so can't use Weldon Springs tower. Anything open on MSHP metro?

No, Troop C is not encrypted. Maybe a very tiny bit late nights but normally not.
If you can't get the VHF Weldon site, some Troop C comms can be heard on site 201 which is the St Louis City 800 MHz North site.
City PD traffic is encrypted but not Troop C traffic.
Troop C traffic is NOT heard on the St Louis City 700 MHz south site 205. Only a few select talkgroups are allowed on site 205 in the city.
I see the site 205 name has MSHP as part of the name. That's actually wrong. The south site 205 is mainly fire and some city district traffic but not much else.

Also, when you mention Metro, which Metro are you speaking of?
There is the Metro train and bus service (ex Bi-State) and the new Modot roadside assistance talkgroup which calls their base station and user group "Metro" when they talk even though they are not affiliated with the Metro transit system and then lastly, Troop C itself always had a Metro and a Rural frequency or talkgroup now. I'm not sure Troop C still uses the Metro and Rural names on their normal dispatch talkgroups of 5 and 7. They simply go by Dispatch 1 and 2 now as far as I know.

 

[AC0RV]

I do receive the Highway Patrol Troop C on talkgroups 5 and 7, as well Metrolink.

 

[kruser]

I do receive the Highway Patrol Troop C on talkgroups 5 and 7, as well Metrolink.

From which tower site are you hearing Metrolink?

Metrolink (transit) talkgroups are not allowed on the VHF Moswin sites.

 

[AC0RV]

Mainly from the Lawrenceton Tower

 

[llzel]

No, Troop C is not encrypted. Maybe a very tiny bit late nights but normally not.
If you can't get the VHF Weldon site, some Troop C comms can be heard on site 201 which is the St Louis City 800 MHz North site.
City PD traffic is encrypted but not Troop C traffic.
Troop C traffic is NOT heard on the St Louis City 700 MHz south site 205. Only a few select talkgroups are allowed on site 205 in the city.
I see the site 205 name has MSHP as part of the name. That's actually wrong. The south site 205 is mainly fire and some city district traffic but not much else.

Also, when you mention Metro, which Metro are you speaking of?
There is the Metro train and bus service (ex Bi-State) and the new Modot roadside assistance talkgroup which calls their base station and user group "Metro" when they talk even though they are not affiliated with the Metro transit system and then lastly, Troop C itself always had a Metro and a Rural frequency or talkgroup now. I'm not sure Troop C still uses the Metro and Rural names on their normal dispatch talkgroups of 5 and 7. They simply go by Dispatch 1 and 2 now as far as I know.

Thanks for the clarification. I was referring to MSHP troop C metro as apposed to rural. So I'll program MSHP for St Louis City North tower and program in the TGID for dispatch 1 and 2. what else should i program, Car-car or any TAC channels?

 

[kruser]

Thanks for the clarification. I was referring to MSHP troop C metro as apposed to rural. So I'll program MSHP for St Louis City North tower and program in the TGID for dispatch 1 and 2. what else should i program, Car-car or any TAC channels?

I don't monitor the cities site that often but when I do. I also find Troop C using Dispatch 3 (talkgroup 9). It's not a heavily used TG though.
I usually monitor for all known and unknown talkgroups. I have the city PD and other stuff in separate groups. Metro transit is one I always lockout as they are always talking!
If you want to limit things, just program ALL of the Troop C state patrol talkgroups and also all of the Region C talkgroups in the least.
There's a lot more that can be heard but for just the state patrol, the above groups I pointed out should give you most of what you are asking for.