MOTOTRBO Ion Smart Radio

[dietlein]

(Apologies if this has been posted previously; I searched but did not find any reference to this. However, battery threads tend to dominate when searching for "ion.")

It looks as if a new Motorola Android-based UHF (4 W) DMR radio is on its way:

https://fccid.io/AZ489FT7133

Manual:

https://fccid.io/AZ489FT7133/User-Manual/Ex8a-User-manual-Mackenzie-UG-5000461.pdf

Coming soon:

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[LowderK]

to bad its not in VHF

 

[PACNWDude]

Thank you for posting. I heard rumors about this new series from a radio vendor. However, my Motorola rep said he could not divulge anything until "First Quarter 2021" but did not have an official date. Me, and my co-workers assumed it would look like the APX Next and be priced too high to realistically implement across a large enterprise. But, we shall see. We do primarily use UHF and 800 MHz, and some office workers want a larger screen than all of the current Trbo equipment, XPR4550/5550e mobiles and 6550/7550e handhelds. PTT from LTE to LMR radio has also been proposed, but is a pipe dream in our use.

Too bad Motorola does not allow promiscuous mode on their TDMA products, may have had to get one for personal use if the cost was not prohibitive.

 

[Giddyuptd]

Interesting. APX Next DMR sister

 

[JimD56]

OK, so it looks cool. From the manual:
1) It says only 3w on high power, not 4
2) SIM Card is proprietary and locked to the phone
3) What frequencies are UHF "wideband"? 403-512mhz maybe. Google didn't help.
4) What is the UHF analog receive sensitivity?

 

[twjr80]

OK, so it looks cool. From the manual:
1) It says only 3w on high power, not 4
2) SIM Card is proprietary and locked to the phone
3) What frequencies are UHF "wideband"? 403-512mhz maybe. Google didn't help.
4) What is the UHF analog receive sensitivity?

Under Table 13 DMR Transmitter, it states "RF Output Power: High: 4W Low: 1W"

 

[JimD56]

Yes, twjr80 you are correct my half-asleep ass was looking at the audio output. DUH
I also found analog receive sensitivity at
Analog Sensitivity (12dB SINAD)
0.16 uV
This is half as good as most Uniden scanners and the MotoTrbos mostly rated .32 uV

 

[dietlein]

I also found analog receive sensitivity at
Analog Sensitivity (12dB SINAD)
0.16 uV
This is half as good as most Uniden scanners and the MotoTrbos mostly rated .32 uV

The 7000e series Rx sensitivity is also specified at 0.16 uV (VHF/UHF). I am not sure there's another 6 dB to be gained in handhelds.

 

[Floridarailfanning]

to bad its not in VHF

VHF and 800/900 will probably be coming later.

 

[JimD56]

Sorry meant DMR Mobiles like the xpr4550 I used to have. Same analog sensitivity as my BCT15x

 

[KK6ZTE]

Lower is better in sensitivity...

 

[dietlein]

And there it is:

MOTOTRBO Ion Rugged Commercial smart radio - Motorola Solutions

The MOTOTRBO Ion smart radio is the first business-ready rugged mobile communication device with all-on voice and broadband data capabilities.

www.motorolasolutions.com

MOTOTRBO Ion Portable Smart Radio - Motorola Solutions

MOTOTRBO Ion portable smart radio is our first business-ready communication device with always-on voice and broadband data capabilities.

www.motorolasolutions.com

 

[n1das]

Too bad Motorola does not allow promiscuous mode on their TDMA products, may have had to get one for personal use if the cost was not prohibitive.

Page 98 of 128:


Is this Digital Carrier-Operated Squelch option Motorola's name for Promiscuous Mode?
Is the network access code in Moto-speak aka Color Code in DMR-speak?

 

[n1das]

And there it is:

MOTOTRBO Ion Rugged Commercial smart radio - Motorola Solutions

The MOTOTRBO Ion smart radio is the first business-ready rugged mobile communication device with all-on voice and broadband data capabilities.

www.motorolasolutions.com

MOTOTRBO Ion Portable Smart Radio - Motorola Solutions

MOTOTRBO Ion portable smart radio is our first business-ready communication device with always-on voice and broadband data capabilities.

www.motorolasolutions.com

Me want! *DROOL*

Anybody know how much $,$$$$.$$ it will cost?

 

[n1das]

Yes, twjr80 you are correct my half-asleep ass was looking at the audio output. DUH
I also found analog receive sensitivity at
Analog Sensitivity (12dB SINAD)
0.16 uV
This is half as good as most Uniden scanners and the MotoTrbos mostly rated .32 uV

Actually 2x better sensitivity. Lower is better sensitivity. Most Uniden scanners require 0.32uV at the antenna connector for 12dB SINAD. This is only half as good as 0.16uV signal input required for 12dB SINAD at the Ion's antenna connector to produce the same amount of noise quieting in the receiver.

I want one of these but I need to sell some of my Hytera DMR radios first.

 

[KG4INW]

Page 98 of 128:
(*snip*)
Is this Digital Carrier-Operated Squelch option Motorola's name for Promiscuous Mode?
Is the network access code in Moto-speak aka Color Code in DMR-speak?

That looks an awful lot like they copied and pasted the squelch description from an Astro (i.e. P25) radio as those terms and functions don't apply to TRBO at all (but fit Astro). I'll bet it's just barely more than a rough draft that they submitted to the FCC for approval.

 

[DeoVindice]

While I won't be buying one, I predict that the company I work for at my day job will buy a huge number of these for supervisors. Very neat concept.

 

[PACNWDude]

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Is this Digital Carrier-Operated Squelch option Motorola's name for Promiscuous Mode?
Is the network access code in Moto-speak aka Color Code in DMR-speak?

OK, this does look promising......thank you for posting as I had obviously glossed over this page.

 

[PACNWDude]

Now, I am curious about what the actual squelch functions will be, seeing previous posts. However, once again, I have received more and better info here than from my own Motorola salesman, who said Ion Trbo radios would be announced sometime "first quarter 2021" and I see it announced on Motorola solutions website yesterday. Well after seeing it here on RadioReference. Good job on those who found the FCC docs, manual and posted it here.

 

[motobot213]

Me want! *DROOL*

Anybody know how much $,$$$$.$$ it will cost?

I think dealer cost is $1600