Mystery new "game changer" coming in 2015 from Baofeng

[nd5y]

We don't know if this is exactly the same in the new radio but this is how it was explained last year:

I didn't remember that right. I think it only changes frequencies when you push one of the function keys. There is a better explanation about the so-called frequency hopping towards the end of this thread:
http://forums.radioreference.com/bu...ivers/298085-new-anytone-hand-helds-fhss.html

 

[f1rzn]

I didn't remember that right. I think it only changes frequencies when you push one of the function keys. There is a better explanation about the so-called frequency hopping towards the end of this thread:
http://forums.radioreference.com/bu...ivers/298085-new-anytone-hand-helds-fhss.html

Thanks for the update. Still not interesting enough for me.

 

[prcguy]

The Anytone FHSS function is like a pseudo manual trunking feature and nearly useless. I believe it was a complete misunderstanding by the mfr of what "Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum" actually means.

Anyway, I have one of the Anytone triband handhelds with cross band repeat and can say its by far the best Chinese handheld out there. I've had many Baofeng and Wouxun handhelds and the Anytone is waaaay better quality and performance. The religious statement from Anytone is a bit odd but at least you know where their coming from, and for me its more comforting than a religious statement that read "Infidels convert or die" or similar.

I think the game changer for Baofeng would be to equal or surpass the quality and features of Anytone...
prcguy

I didn't remember that right. I think it only changes frequencies when you push one of the function keys. There is a better explanation about the so-called frequency hopping towards the end of this thread:
http://forums.radioreference.com/bu...ivers/298085-new-anytone-hand-helds-fhss.html

 

[jk77]

These are not game changers. They've been on the market for months over at wouxun.us. Plus, we were led to believe that it would be something new from Baofeng. Also, I see no prices listed for the radios. All the accesories have prices listed, but not the radios. I think the price will be considerably higher than Baofeng prices.

 

[bill4long]

A digital radio might be a "game changer." Otherwise yawwwwn.

 

[nd5y]

GMRS and MURS mode

I think I figured out how they are attempting to get Part 95 A and J certifiication, if they haven't already (nobody has posted FCC IDs so far).

The manual says there is a power on menu called Public Usage Frequency Mode. You power on the radio while holding a key and select Normal, GMRS or MURS modes from a menu.

When in GMRS or MURS modes it appears that the radio would be locked down to either GMRS or MURS preprogrammed channels, but not both at the same time, and will only operate on those plus receive the NOAA weather channels until you do the power up menu again and select Normal mode. Apparently you can only change tones and scanning options on the preprogrammed MURS and GMRS channels.

The manual doesn't say what would prevent somebody from using MURS or GMRS frequencies in Normal mode in the VFO or regular memory channels.

 

[12dbsinad]

I'm still trying to figure out how they can claim these POS's can be part 90 certified when they are programmable for both wide/narrow bandwidth, for starters. Maybe all the other major brands missed a loop hole on the rules for part 90?? lol.

 

[N8OHU]

I'm still trying to figure out how they can claim these POS's can be part 90 certified when they are programmable for both wide/narrow bandwidth, for starters. Maybe all the other major brands missed a loop hole on the rules for part 90?? lol.

No, since there are people using the latest versions of the commercial radio programming software to program ham frequencies into their XPR6500's and hams aren't required yet to follow the narrow bandwidth rules, at least in the US.

 

[12dbsinad]

No, since there are people using the latest versions of the commercial radio programming software to program ham frequencies into their XPR6500's and hams aren't required yet to follow the narrow bandwidth rules, at least in the US.

Ham band yes, wide/narrow switchable is still fine. However, obtaining new part 90 cert must require narrow bandwidth only. Existing production equipment complies usually with restrictions done via firmware/software for narrow only operation.

 

[Voyager]

One of the Part 95 certs require that the radio must not be capable of operation on any other frequency. How are they getting around that one?

 

[riccom]

Voyager in what way, as in made for a specified band, if thats the case Motorola and others are breaking the law as well, if you mean as a icom is branded for amature use must be used as that, then baofeng is branding for dot frequencies and public services, now the fcc seal may be phony, who knows, baofeng has branched to different companies, so I guess it is up in the air

 

[Voyager]

Read posts 129 and 141.

Also, Baofeng is still Baofeng and Anytone is still Anytone. The fact that some USA dealer is selling both is not an indication of any merging of the manufacturers. Just as Import Communications (wouxun.us) is also now selling Anytone, and has been for a year or more.

The "big news" was that the USA Baofeng dealer is now selling Anytone radios, too.

Whoopie.

 

[Hans13]

MURS, GMRS, Part 90 & 95, IP53, SW RX, upgradeable firmware, and programmable dual band; it's the whole checklist for my radio group as long as it remains relatively inexpensive. If it comes to market FCC approved and within my budget then I'll be very pleased.

 

[Voyager]

The Anytone version from last year is a little over $100.

One of the reasons I purchased it was for the 2-tone decoding, but I found it will only decode one set of tones. (epic fail on that)

Ironically, it will ENcode multiple sets of tones.

 

[toastycookies]

the full duplex model, with crossband repeat, FHSS, 6band receive, etc pretty much the exact same as the TERMN-8R is $190 and has been out since 5/9/2014 according to it's FCC part 90 grant.

 

[Voyager]

Must be the "OBLTR-8R" model that is a little over $100.

I recall the FHSS model coming out around August, but whatever...

I will add that the cases are slightly different. Maybe that's the radical change.

Seriously, I think the 'radical change' is that BaofengTech is now also selling Anytone.

 

[toastycookies]

I totally agree about the 'radical change' is just that they picked up another radio line from china.

Maybe you were thinking of the AT-3318uva ($100) AT-3318uvd ($150 with FHSS)

They came out last summer and have been carried by US Distributors since then.

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either way i see nothing "radical" about baofeng tech has done and personally believe is was just a big marketing scam for publicity.

 

[f1rzn]

either way i see nothing "radical" about baofeng tech has done and personally believe is was just a big marketing scam for publicity.

I agree...and it can be counter productive if the publicity works and there's nothing to justify it. Because now many people know it ain't what was announced.

I still hope one day we will see some true FHSS rigs for voice ham applications. It would be cool to experiment with it on a large scale.

 

[n9mxq]

They're out for sale...The 8R Series is AVAILABLE Today

 

[riccom]

I just got the email and ehh I will keep my new Uv82L