New GMRS License?

[K4EET]

No skeletons in my closet. <snip>

We’ll that’s good news! And congratulations on your 30 years as a ham! Are you a member of the Quarter Century Wireless Association (QCWA)?

73 my friend, Dave K4EET
QCWA #34,158

 

[kb9hgi]

Been a week and no GMRS license yet but then I seen this:

04/27/2022
On Wednesday, April 27, in a notice to all VECs, the FCC again asked them to refrain from submitting any amateur radio exam session or license application files while the Commission works to resolve an issue with the Universal Licensing System (ULS) application filing system.

The ULS application filing system was not functioning properly last week and then the FCC indicated the problem was resolved, as previously reported by ARRL.

However, this was not the case, as no new amateur radio call signs and licenses have been issued since Monday, April 18, 2022.

Tuesday, April 19 is the day the FCC application fees became effective for amateur radio.

ARRL VEC Manager Maria Somma, AB1FM, reports that new call signs are not being assigned by the FCC even if the applicant has paid the FCC application fee.

The FCC was processing upgrade applications through the system without an issue because there are no fees required for those applications.

In addition to new call signs not being issued even if the applicant has paid the FCC fee, some applicants are also having issues paying and logging into the system.

Other types of license application transactions may also be experiencing problems. Applicants should expect delays with license, call sign, and application processing associated with individuals and amateur radio clubs.

Amateur radio license filings are currently on hold until further notice and FCC did not estimate how long the system would be down.

We will update the public as information from the FCC becomes available.

 

[mmckenna]

According to the FCC, there were 3581 GMRS licenses granted in the last week (22April2022 to 29April2022).

While I don't doubt the ARRL statement, I don't think what they are saying is showing as true on the GMRS side. Your application shows the "Payment Confirmed" on 21April2022.

 

[WA0CBW]

I applied on the 26th at 1:30pm and about 12 hours later at 1:24am my call sign was posted.
BB

 

[AK9R]

Been a week and no GMRS license yet but then I seen this:

That notice applies to new amateur radio license submissions from VECs. The process for amateur radio licenses is that the VECs review testing results and prepare an electronic file that is sent to the FCC for automatic processing. This is not the same as GMRS licenses which are applied for directly using the online system as there are no VECs and no tests.

As has been mentioned more than once in this thread, your GMRS application was offlined for alert list review. You may think you have no skeletons in the closet, but the FCC apparently thinks you do. You will have to be patient. If they approve your application, great! If they deny it, they should tell you why. The denial will probably be in the form of a letter from the FCC. Calling them on the phone will probably not speed up the process.

There are two places to search for licenses in the FCC ULS.

This link is the FCC ULS License Search and you can search by callsign, FRN, or name: License Search

This link is the FCC ULS Application Search and you can search by callsign, FRN, applicant name, or application file number: Application Search

Your GMRS license application file number is: 0010014798. As of this morning, it still says Application Status = Pending and in the History it says "Offlined for Alert List Review" as of April 22.

 

[KevinC]

Sounds like you have my luck. Had a background check for an agency I was doing work for and they denied me. They got a Soundex hit on my name. Same first name, different middle and last name, different DOB, different SSN. Our DOB was the same day and month but 5 years apart. The other guy lives in the PNW and I'm about 2,000 miles away and have never been to the PNW. This guy had all sorts of previous arrests. Me? Nothing. So, how do you prove who you AREN'T? Fingerprints.

The guy at that agency that did my background check was technically a firefighter that they put in charge of the checks for that project and he had no clue that Soundex hits are usually way off.

 

[NR1CK]

I applied on 4/20/22. It is STILL pending today.

Since then these are the events that have been happening...

05/03/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/30/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/29/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/28/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/27/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/26/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/23/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/22/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/21/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​

I have no idea what this means.

 

[ecps92]

Totally understand this one.

Had to explain to a Police Chief who was about to deny my LTC, what soundex was and how he needed to talk to his "trained dispatchers" and not rely on his clerical staff to review those NCIC, NLETS etc responses. Once we had that nice chat, I was never questioned during my renewals again


As to the OP's issue with the ALERT List review
from ULS License Search Help

Alert List � A list of potential categories of "problem" applications so that ULS can identify them and send them offline for manual processing. The alert list function can then be used to flag applications based on the identity of the applicant, the spectrum being applied for, or the type of license being sought.

Sounds like you have my luck. Had a background check for an agency I was doing work for and they denied me. They got a Soundex hit on my name. Same first name, different middle and last name, different DOB, different SSN. Our DOB was the same day and month but 5 years apart. The other guy lives in the PNW and I'm about 2,000 miles away and have never been to the PNW. This guy had all sorts of previous arrests. Me? Nothing. So, how do you prove who you AREN'T? Fingerprints.

The guy at that agency that did my background check was technically a firefighter that they put in charge of the checks for that project and he had no clue that Soundex hits are usually way off.

 

[nd5y]

Red Light Rule

 

[KevinC]

Totally understand this one.

Had to explain to a Police Chief who was about to deny my LTC, what soundex was and how he needed to talk to his "trained dispatchers" and not rely on his clerical staff to review those NCIC, NLETS etc responses. Once we had that nice chat, I was never questioned during my renewals again


As to the OP's issue with the ALERT List review
from ULS License Search Help

Alert List � A list of potential categories of "problem" applications so that ULS can identify them and send them offline for manual processing. The alert list function can then be used to flag applications based on the identity of the applicant, the spectrum being applied for, or the type of license being sought.

It didn't matter to that agency that I had recently passed background checks for the DEA, FBI, Secret Service, DoD and Customs. Whatever...

 

[mmckenna]

I applied on 4/20/22. It is STILL pending today.

Since then these are the events that have been happening...

05/03/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/30/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/29/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/28/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/27/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/26/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/23/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/22/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​
04/21/2022​	Redlight Review Completed​

I have no idea what this means.

Probably didn't help that you made a modification while it was in the review process.

 

[ecps92]

Nice find Tom

and the ability to check on the RED Light info for the OP

Checking the Status of Your FCC Account
The Red Light Display System (RLD). The FCC has created a new Red Light Display System (RLD) to enable entities doing business with the FCC to determine if they have any outstanding delinquent debt. The RLD enables you to check the status of your account by individual FRNs, and links other FRNs sharing the same TIN when determining whether there are outstanding delinquent debts. The RLD is now operational at https://www.fcc.gov/redlight/.

Red Light Rule

 

[NR1CK]

Nice find Tom

and the ability to check on the RED Light info for the OP

Checking the Status of Your FCC Account
The Red Light Display System (RLD). The FCC has created a new Red Light Display System (RLD) to enable entities doing business with the FCC to determine if they have any outstanding delinquent debt. The RLD enables you to check the status of your account by individual FRNs, and links other FRNs sharing the same TIN when determining whether there are outstanding delinquent debts. The RLD is now operational at https://www.fcc.gov/redlight/.

And that link is not operational and hasn't been this whole time.

Now, when I went to originally pay the license fee, it was their payment interface page that just disappeared upon submittal and did not provide any subsequent payment confirmation. I could not tell if it went through or not. The application went to submitted status. So I amended the application in hopes of getting another shot at payment. No dice, and no indication on the application that it was this particular fee that was not paid (at their fault mind you?) So I get "Red Lighted" for this with no recourse? Ridiculous.

I have never owed the FCC one thin dime before this.

 

[NR1CK]

And that link is not operational and hasn't been this whole time.

Now, when I went to originally pay the license fee, it was their payment interface page that just disappeared upon submittal and did not provide any subsequent payment confirmation. I could not tell if it went through or not. The application went to submitted status. So I amended the application in hopes of getting another shot at payment. No dice, and no indication on the application that it was this particular fee that was not paid (at their fault mind you?) So I get "Red Lighted" for this with no recourse? Ridiculous.

I have never owed the FCC one thin dime before this.

Oh, I didn't mention that there are no outstanding fees of any kind associated with my FRN, at least as reported by CORES.

 

[kb9hgi]

Well I called the FCC today. The gentlemen was very nice. I told him what was going on and he asked for my FRN and he looked thru it and said he could not find anything wrong and has no idea why it was Red lighted. He said hang on a min and check a few other things and still could not find out why it was red lighted. Said he was sending it to someone else and if they needed anything they would send me a email but he said I should be get my GMRS License. Now wait and see some more!

 

[KD8DVR]

And that link is not operational and hasn't been this whole time.

Now, when I went to originally pay the license fee, it was their payment interface page that just disappeared upon submittal and did not provide any subsequent payment confirmation. I could not tell if it went through or not. The application went to submitted status. So I amended the application in hopes of getting another shot at payment. No dice, and no indication on the application that it was this particular fee that was not paid (at their fault mind you?) So I get "Red Lighted" for this with no recourse? Ridiculous.

I have never owed the FCC one thin dime before this.

Was your credit card debited? Usually, repeated "Red Light Review completed" processes means payment hasn't been received. You'll get the red light review for about 30 days, then the application will be denied for nonpayment.

 

[NR1CK]

Was your credit card debited? Usually, repeated "Red Light Review completed" processes means payment hasn't been received. You'll get the red light review for about 30 days, then the application will be denied for nonpayment.

Yeah I talked to them, that was it. It's getting sorted now. Thanks!

 

[KD8DVR]

Yeah I talked to them, that was it. It's getting sorted now. Thanks!

you are welcome! Enjoy!

 

[PDXh0b0]

This thread has had me hesitant on clicking the payment button for a week lol

 

[kb9hgi]

Was your credit card debited? Usually, repeated "Red Light Review completed" processes means payment hasn't been received. You'll get the red light review for about 30 days, then the application will be denied for nonpayment.

Yes my Debit card went thru and the guy I talk to on the phone said nothing was wrong with my app and he forward it on and then today I got my callsign WRQS784 after 2 weeks and a phone call. All good now and wish anyone else good luck!