New NFPA Standard for radios and spkr mics

[speedway_navigator]

New NFPA Standard Offers Firefighters Improved Radio, RSM Communications

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Some of these recommendations would require a major software rewrite. RSM is spkr mic to us.

Radios and RSMs will include voice announcements of changes to zone, channel/talkpath, MAYDAY button activation, etc.
• If there is radio traffic, the voice announcement is delayed and then played when the radio traffic ceases

The connection between the radio and the RSM is monitored, and if an electrical problem is detected with the connecting cable, then various audible and visual alerts are presented to the user.

The standard requires that the radio goes go through a self-check every time it is turned on and every 5 minutes while being used. A failed self-check is announced by visual and audible alerts.

NFPA 1802 Standard Development

Stay informed and participate in the standards development process for NFPA 1802

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[mmckenna]

So, in other words, Motorola gets to sell new NFPA compliant radios to all the agencies running non-compliant APX-8000's

I'll wager a guess: $9,000.00 each. New compliant RSM's will be $750 each. I think the days of $10K public safety portables is on the horizon.

 

[12dbsinad]

HAHAHA.

Let me guess....... written and signed "Motorola"!

 

[12dbsinad]

So, in other words, Motorola gets to sell new NFPA compliant radios to all the agencies running non-compliant APX-8000's

I'll wager a guess: $9,000.00 each. New compliant RSM's will be $750 each. I think the days of $10K public safety portables is on the horizon.

This whole NFPA radio experts is a joke and all about the money...

 

[mmckenna]

HAHAHA.

Let me guess....... written and signed "Motorola"!

I'll wager that there name is in there somewhere.

Now that rebanding is done, they're sniffing around for more taxpayer dollars.

 

[mmckenna]

This whole NFPA radio experts is a joke and all about the money...

Yeah, it's getting f—ing ridiculous.

 

[12dbsinad]

Yeah, it's getting f—ing ridiculous.

Well, if Motorola complies as well as let's say Harris... we can swap our speaker mics because the radio connectors will be the same according to them

 

[mmckenna]

Well, if Motorola complies as well as let's say Harris... we can swap our speaker mics because the radio connectors will be the same according to them

True.

However, Motorola will offer a free upgrade that makes it do something that prevents it from working with anything other than a Motorola APX-9000NEXT

 

[CanesFan95]

Another reason I'm a fan of conventional analog for comm's. You're not stuck on some greedy ass corporation's over-priced proprietary garbage. If you're analog conventional, then just wait until 3-4 manufacturers come out with standards/compliant stuff and then you could have some better price competition.

 

[12dbsinad]

True.

However, Motorola will offer a free upgrade that makes it do something that prevents it from working with anything other than a Motorola APX-9000NEXT

Ha! Yes, exactly!

 

[12dbsinad]

Another reason I'm a fan of conventional analog for comm's. You're not stuck on some greedy ass corporation's over-priced proprietary garbage. If you're analog conventional, then just wait until 3-4 manufacturers come out with standards/compliant stuff and then you could have some better price competition.

If you notice, the NFPA recommends that analog conventional "be available" so to speak on these new super duper radio's. They don't downright say don't use a damn digital trunked system, which has lead to more deaths than any subscriber unit inside a burning building. Of course, they aren't going to totally disregard a fancy new wiz bang system, however, I do agree with you.

 

[GlobalNorth]

Ten thousand minimum.

 

[12dbsinad]

Ten thousand minimum.

Yep, and even then probably at a 1000 piece pricing

 

[Onelick]

NFPA= Not For Practical Application

 

[JimD56]

NOT my agency. We are staying with APX7700xe's. If the announcements can be tuned up, so be it. NFPA IS NOT LAW, it is only reccomnadations. There are quite a few NFPA standards we poo poo.

 

[12dbsinad]

NOT my agency. We are staying with APX7700xe's. If the announcements can be tuned up, so be it. NFPA IS NOT LAW, it is only reccomnadations. There are quite a few NFPA standards we poo poo.

True. If you fought a complete fire from start to finish all per NFPA recommendations, you wouldn't be able to do anything and you pretty much should just go home.

 

[mancow]

So, in other words, Motorola gets to sell new NFPA compliant radios to all the agencies running non-compliant APX-8000's

I'll wager a guess: $9,000.00 each. New compliant RSM's will be $750 each. I think the days of $10K public safety portables is on the horizon.

There it is.

 

[wwhitby]

Radios and RSMs will include voice announcements of changes to zone, channel/talkpath, MAYDAY button activation, etc.

Ohhhh. So Motorola wants to become more like Baofeng? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Personally, I hate the voice announcements and make sure any radio with them has them disabled.

 

[KevinC]

NOT my agency. We are staying with APX7700xe's. If the announcements can be tuned up, so be it. NFPA IS NOT LAW, it is only reccomnadations. There are quite a few NFPA standards we poo poo.

And when a firefighter dies in a fire and the family finds out you weren't NFPA compliant you lose the lawsuit.

Trust me, this sort of stuff happens. More than you'd probably ever imagine.

 

[clbsquared]

Personally, I hate the voice announcements and make sure any radio with them has them disabled.

It's pretty nice when you're at a working fire and can't take your eyes off of your surroundings to peal back your turnout coat and look at a tiny display to see what channel you need to switch to.