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The ability of the radio system featured is that stations 15-20/miles away will sound as good (albeit less loud).

The thread is worth your while. This is a great example of what today is best. The trainers truck ain’t too good versus what only a few of us can today experience (being ahead of the curve). My big trucks audio reception sounded this good at similar long range.

No SQ, and RFG maxed, remember.

A T680 is the best of the fleet trucks for a HQ antenna system. But wiring it up is a pain (the trade-off).

Here’s the choke-point “fun” on a 2017.

View attachment 172177

DXE mounts (plus CMC choke and braided ground to firewall not shown) under 7’ Skipshooter pair.

View attachment 172179

I tend to change gear around. Here’s my pre-NRC radio in travel case with most of the accessory gear (case cover removed; component grounds shown). It rides in passenger seat. A Connex was fine in 1989. Things have changed in last two years, though.

View attachment 172180

Not to divert thread any longer, but it’s doubtful more than a handful have heard this or the OP level of performance in a big truck without extensive work plus radios not available before 2023. Takes me two full days for the installation.

Just the radio is the big change. Now the rest of the systems must be upgraded.

The video highlights what it’s like for me in a big truck talking to another 6-7/miles away and the big trucks right around me can’t hear the other man at all.

1-2/miles won’t keep you out of trouble when a pile-up is occurring 5-miles ahead. Need to hear and ID location of wreck while it’s still happening to stay the hell out of trouble.


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love your work SlowMover.... wx2watch has a mobile rig in a bag that he plugs into the cigarette lighter.... that ground looks great.... perhaps he can make something like that. as his unit doesn't seem to receive very well at all, and I'm sure not having the radio grounded to the cab is a huge factor..... and I'm sure he is getting interference from the cigarette lighter so what he hears is not as clear and clean as it should be.... how do you connect to the power SlowMover?
 

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On a FTL it’s easy enough (shown; power gets split for amp vs all else). The circuit panel is straight ahead of the passenger seat and the POS/NEG feeds are BATT common. Couldn’t detect a noise difference in going all the way to BATT.
IMG_5476.jpegOn the T680 one runs 12V thru the air line panel ahead of the brake pedal and then down firewall to the battery box under drivers step. NEG/POS to BATT terminals.

— A great deal longer run. Where I can easily get away with 10-AWG to overbuild on a FTL, one needs 6-AWG to stay at 3% Volt Drop for the previous generation (2012) T680.

MBRP fused, always. Marine-Grade wiring is ideal, and always split-loom covered. Tinned connectors.

I use Anderson Power Poles to build any wiring/cabling as separate harnesses which go in & out as complete assemblies.

Your linked pic was where I was showing CASE GROUND (which runs to APP distribution Neg). A pre-NRC set-up in the TAC-COMM case.

Power
Coax
Case Grnd

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love your work SlowMover.... wx2watch has a mobile rig in a bag that he plugs into the cigarette lighter.... that ground looks great.... perhaps he can make something like that. as his unit doesn't seem to receive very well at all, and I'm sure not having the radio grounded to the cab is a huge factor..... and I'm sure he is getting interference from the cigarette lighter so what he hears is not as clear and clean as it should be.... how do you connect to the power SlowMover?
Hey folks!

I’m still here, sorta, actively lurking and following various threads, here at Radio Reference and also at the TacomaWorld website. I’ve taken NiceGuy71’s suggestions to heart and I’m being a little more active in my quest for a clean power source.

Here is the best ”cheapest/cleanest” install that I can find that seems (to me) to be a good solution for the positive voltage supply for my radio. But I am a little concerned about electrolysis on the battery terminal due to dissimilar metals from the added gizmo on the positive terminal. (Any comments?)

However, I think Blue Sea Systems has a good reputation and so I intend to purchase one soon via the link below.

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20

Blue Sea Systems 5023 ST Blade Battery Terminal Fuse Block 4 Circuit with Cover​



EDIT: Don't know if the link survived...

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20


THEN, begins the search for the two legendary firewall rubber grommet thru holes... (Hope my 2022 Tacoma has them)

wx2watch
 

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Hey folks!

I’m still here, sorta, actively lurking and following various threads, here at Radio Reference and also at the TacomaWorld website. I’ve taken NiceGuy71’s suggestions to heart and I’m being a little more active in my quest for a clean power source.

Here is the best ”cheapest/cleanest” install that I can find that seems (to me) to be a good solution for the positive voltage supply for my radio. But I am a little concerned about electrolysis on the battery terminal due to dissimilar metals from the added gizmo on the positive terminal. (Any comments?)

However, I think Blue Sea Systems has a good reputation and so I intend to purchase one soon via the link below.

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20

Blue Sea Systems 5023 ST Blade Battery Terminal Fuse Block 4 Circuit with Cover​



EDIT: Don't know if the link survived...

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20


THEN, begins the search for the two legendary firewall rubber grommet thru holes... (Hope my 2022 Tacoma has them)

wx2watch
That looks like nice piece for adding circuits on a late model vehicle. Most battery terminal problems I see are caused by a leaking battery. I wouldn’t sweat the did similar metals.
 

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Here is the best ”cheapest/cleanest” install that I can find that seems (to me) to be a good solution for the positive voltage supply for my radio. But I am a little concerned about electrolysis on the battery terminal due to dissimilar metals from the added gizmo on the positive terminal. (Any comments?)

There are some good install guidelines out there if you know where to look.
(hint: It's not usually the advice you get on amateur radio or hobby websites).

There are three approaches to this:
1. Get the connection away from the battery.
2. Maintain your battery so this doesn't become an issue.
3. Don't do any of the above, and then complain when your radios act up.

You'll find that option #3 is the most popular if you hang around here (or some other sites) long enough. I have no $@#^ing idea why.

Some large agencies have guidance that says you connect the positive power for your radios at the starter. That gets +12v right off the battery via a big conductor, and it keeps it away from the battery. This has served many large agencies well for decades.
But not everyone wants to do that. Which is OK.
I've been doing this stuff for a few decades. I've found that connecting to the battery positive terminal isn't an issue if one bothers to pop the hood occasionally and perform a tiny bit of preventative maintenance. I know "PM" is a four letter word for many. The "I let MY mechanic handle all that" seems to be a common attitude. Not sure why hams/hobbyists won't take the time to PM their systems, but that's fine with me.

The absolute worst is the hams that insist on fusing the negative radio lead to the battery. In their thinking, the negative strap to the chassis is going to fail and all that starting current is going to get pulled through their precious radio. I personally wonder about anyone that would let their battery get so bad that their negative chassis bond would fail and not notice. But they are out there, and they walk amongst us, so beware….


So, pop the hood. Visually inspect the terminals. If they are showing leakage, then maybe time for a new battery. At minimum, take the time to remove all the connections and clean the terminals/battery. It's not hard, it doesn't take long, and it pays off in the long run. Soap and water is a good idea. Use some baking soda and water paste if there's acid, but hopefully it doesn't get that bad. All terminals should be clean and shiny before reassembly. Don't goop up the connections with crap. Just keep them clean. Put a reminder on your calendar to do it again in a few months.

This little bit of PM not only helps your radios, but helps with starting the car. No reason to get to the point where the system fails due to lack of care.

BlueSea makes good stuff. I'm not sure I'd put one of those directly at the battery. Looks like a lazy solution to me. I prefer to run a large gauge wire from the battery positive terminal to a circuit breaker or large fuse on the fire wall near your battery. That makes for only one extra connection at the battery to maintain. One wire to run. One wire to hide. Size it correctly, and you never have to do it again. I usually run at least a 6 gauge. That's good up to around 100 amps. If you need more than 100 amps for radios/accessories, you probably want a second battery.

From the fuse/breaker, run that large gauge wire into your vehicle and install a suitable fused distribution block. Locate it near your radios to reduce wire runs and keep things looking neat. The larger conductor reduces voltage drop, also. This same power feed can support other accessories. Much better solution than trying to pull a bunch of individual wires through the firewall, and then having a bunch of extra connections at the battery terminal to deal with. Don't run the negative leads back to the battery. Connect a ground bus to a nearby body bolt. That also helps reduce some RFI.

There's some good guides out there that have been proven to work well. Might cost a bit more up front, but the long term lack of issues pays off.
 

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Hey folks!

I’m still here, sorta, actively lurking and following various threads, here at Radio Reference and also at the TacomaWorld website. I’ve taken NiceGuy71’s suggestions to heart and I’m being a little more active in my quest for a clean power source.

Here is the best ”cheapest/cleanest” install that I can find that seems (to me) to be a good solution for the positive voltage supply for my radio. But I am a little concerned about electrolysis on the battery terminal due to dissimilar metals from the added gizmo on the positive terminal. (Any comments?)

However, I think Blue Sea Systems has a good reputation and so I intend to purchase one soon via the link below.

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20

Blue Sea Systems 5023 ST Blade Battery Terminal Fuse Block 4 Circuit with Cover​



EDIT: Don't know if the link survived...

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20


THEN, begins the search for the two legendary firewall rubber grommet thru holes... (Hope my 2022 Tacoma has them)

wx2watch

I’ve a set of those (POS & NEG) and haven’t ever used them.

Battery Post Maintenance is needed without radio.

Combination Brush

I got away from using di-electric grease 30-years ago in favor of No-Alox. Ive started buying this brand product of late. Be systematic is always the advice. Treat grounds, etc, not just BATT.

The point here is that it’s ordinary maintenance.


My preference on attaching to BATT is with


as a few cables can easily be added.

12V+ Fuse can be of several types, but it needs to be long-term reliable in exposure to hot/cold/wet (distinct from “outdoors”).

The link provided by @mmckenna is the best type of guideline to follow as it’s proven reliable. Stay with the philosophy expressed.

— I believe you’ll find that every topic for mobile needs its own list.

www.k0bg.com

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niceguy71

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Hey folks!

I’m still here, sorta, actively lurking and following various threads, here at Radio Reference and also at the TacomaWorld website. I’ve taken NiceGuy71’s suggestions to heart and I’m being a little more active in my quest for a clean power source.

Here is the best ”cheapest/cleanest” install that I can find that seems (to me) to be a good solution for the positive voltage supply for my radio. But I am a little concerned about electrolysis on the battery terminal due to dissimilar metals from the added gizmo on the positive terminal. (Any comments?)

However, I think Blue Sea Systems has a good reputation and so I intend to purchase one soon via the link below.

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20

Blue Sea Systems 5023 ST Blade Battery Terminal Fuse Block 4 Circuit with Cover​



EDIT: Don't know if the link survived...

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Sys...1&adgrpid=64958377347&th=1&tag=amazonquery-20


THEN, begins the search for the two legendary firewall rubber grommet thru holes... (Hope my 2022 Tacoma has them)

wx2watch
I would just use one of these Amazon fuse holder .... and buy a roll of #12 AWG wire ... I get a double roll, meaning two wires and pull the one that I don't need off.. but then I have the roll for other things. Amazon wire... they sell easy connections for side post batteries ( just adds a longer screw ) and most top post batteries you can add a wire to the nut on the post..... the important thing will be the negative wire.... just drill a hole under the passenger floor rug scratch up the paint on the floor and put a ring terminal on a 5/16" bolt... drop it through the hole and put a lock nut under the floor then use Rust-O-Lium paint to paint over the bolt and wire and ring terminal...... I try to drill the hole up as high as I can, just under the heater core. DO NOT RUN THE NEGATIVE TO THE BATTERY
this is the relay I like to use, and I wire it to the radio so it shuts off the CB with the key, relay
as I've said Best buy can do it cheaply as they take the dash out all the time.... 2nd nature to those guys. ... I just wish there was an easy place to permanently install a big 5555 N II in a little Toyota truck.
 

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Meanwhile, on the western slope of the Appalachians are bets being placed re UFO and “who’s bagged first one”.

(The incoming Veep)

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I’m a little west of Dallas-Fort Worth still anxious my anti-aircraft volley sight arrives (7.62x51 rules)

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Till then I’m up in the tree stand with the 8X variable on a QD.

PRESIDENT Liberty version of the wireless (not Bluetooth) speaker/mic. KL7505V cranked and the 108” on the roof. The boys farther west with StarLite scopes or the ones further east around The MetroHex with them heat-detectors . . . .

In Texas, gotta call your shot.
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Can wander a circle more than 200’ yard across from base shown.

Lovin’ this full moon.

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The 6.5 Creedmore is always on stand by.

Out here we know that as 6.5-Manbun.
But I won’t tell anybody.

Plenty of militaries are stepping up to .338 Lapua Magnum for machine guns. Probably the route we should be considering as armory stock is heavily favored for MG.

35” 10-ga mag goose gun with sabot?



— PRESIDENT (or UNIDEN) with the wireless speaker/microphone makes transition to that brand an even more desirable goal (as this bit of current news fun is meant to illustrate).

Or a Randy, suitably kitted out.

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Here ya go, young’un, button this in your coat pocket and tie the snatch strap around your middle. We’ll get the pickup with a few hundred feet of line headed the other way as you jog up around the road bend to see what you can see. You get us distance and size dimensions from where that thing landed, a’right?



“What’s that? They’re nine feet tall and probably seven-hundred pounds? Repeat, you’re breaking up . . . “

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6.5-Manbun.

1000 yard manbun...

Perfect for the rapid reapplication of corrective action... At distance.

The .338 LM in a heavy bolt config is my dream gun, and Savage has some that are in reach now.

Still needs $2k worth of glass to match though.
 
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"Their skill with those long rifles was to become world renowned. They took great enjoyment then in displaying it among themselves in their friendly bouts at the various turkey shoots throughout the colonial east. In a grimmer mood they also demonstrated it to savages and to certain foreign troops with devastating results."
 

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A little after midnight last night I made my longest mobile to base contact.

I was tickled, but the story is more interesting that the stat.

I was swapping antennas while talking to the local stations (4, 8, and 11 miles to the three who were still on that late).

I was looking to find out which of my antennas could reach the farthest with the least amount of noise so I waited for skip to die off.

As an aside, the GR45 and the 7' skipshooter both had excellent audio and S-meter reports, with the GR45 having just a tick higher signal capture on my end.

So, around 12:30 am a new guy breaks in to ask what I'm running, and I happily shared the details.

He told me he didn't have an S-meter so he couldn't give me a reading, but said, "You're definitely getting on; I've got a room full of ya and you're crystal clear!"

I let him know that he was hitting me with an S9 but that he sounded like he was pushing a ton of static or back ground noise too (sounded like a fan running).

He said, "That makes sense, this tube radio is ancient, hasn't been on in 20 years, and isn't warmed up good yet."

Not knowing anything about tube radios I made a few inquiries of my own, and he said he didn't know much about radios himself.

He explained that the radio had three "levels", was as large as a refrigerator, and plugged into a 220v AC outlet.

He said the first level had a single tube with no numbers on it, the second level had two tubes with the number 4-400b on them, and the bottom level had four tubes that were the size of 1 gallon pickle jars and burned blue-hot.

He said he had a 5/8 wavelength antenna with a gamma match on it just to try it out. I have no idea what that means.

I've never seen or even heard of such a beast, but I though it was interesting.

So did all the other stations who where scrambling to ask questions so we traded location information and I backed out.

I came in and ran the numbers on the google machine.

I didn't know the other operator's exact location but the closest he could have been was 29.6 air miles.

That's on AM22 and not on SSB.
A transmitter like that could punch over a KW input with a pair of 4-400s.
the 4 jugs glowing purple are power supply rectifiers.
No clue what the top tube would be.
My Big Bertha equivalent had 6 purple glowers near the bottom, 10 KV at over 1 amp.
3 phase 220, 20 amp/phase just to turn it on.
Final is a 4XC-5000.
 

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The ability of the radio system featured is that stations 15-20/miles away will sound as good (albeit less loud).

The thread is worth your while. This is a great example of what today is best. The trainers truck ain’t too good versus what only a few of us can today experience (being ahead of the curve). My big trucks audio reception sounded this good at similar long range.

No SQ, and RFG maxed, remember.

A T680 is the best of the fleet trucks for a HQ antenna system. But wiring it up is a pain (the trade-off).

Here’s the choke-point “fun” on a 2017.

View attachment 172177

DXE mounts (plus CMC choke and braided ground to firewall not shown) under 7’ Skipshooter pair.

View attachment 172179

I tend to change gear around. Here’s my pre-NRC radio in travel case with most of the accessory gear (case cover removed; component grounds shown). It rides in passenger seat. A Connex was fine in 1989. Things have changed in last two years, though.

View attachment 172180

Not to divert thread any longer, but it’s doubtful more than a handful have heard this or the OP level of performance in a big truck without extensive work plus radios not available before 2023. Takes me two full days for the installation.

Just the radio is the big change. Now the rest of the systems must be upgraded.

The video highlights what it’s like for me in a big truck talking to another 6-7/miles away and the big trucks right around me can’t hear the other man at all.

1-2/miles won’t keep you out of trouble when a pile-up is occurring 5-miles ahead. Need to hear and ID location of wreck while it’s still happening to stay the hell out of trouble.


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Tie raps,, really ?
 

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Tie raps,, really ?

Big truck ain’t fun or easy, oftentimes. On the pic in question it was “insurance” till I was sure that a 7’ Skipshooter wouldn’t break off (kept changing stud).

Finally bored hole larger to install a rigid SS stud. The plate is held by four (4) machine screws to arm.
 

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1000 yard manbun...

Perfect for the rapid reapplication of corrective action... At distance.

The .338 LM in a heavy bolt config is my dream gun, and Savage has some that are in reach now.

Still needs $2k worth of glass to match though.

But are you using VOX or still fiddling with a PTT key? That’s the REAL Q on this forum for shooting sports.

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