NJ Hospital Radio Request

[mondaro]

Looking for a list of PL tones NOT DTMF connect tones for the New Jersey Hospitals on JEMS 2 155.3400. Looking for a complete list for my files but right now looking for tones for Overlook and Union Hospitals.

Thanks

Tony Mondaro
North Arlington EMS
Bergen County NJ

 

[apu]

Trade you Overlook (131.8) and Union (210.7) for the file when its done?

 

[stvnd53]

St.Clairs Denville:118.8
Mo'Town:71.9
St.clairs Dover:203.5
Hackesttown Reg:167.9
Newton Mem:141.3
Somerset Med Ctr:103.5
Rob'wood Jon:114.8
St.Peters:151.4
Muhlenburg:136.5

 

[Alarmguy]

Valley Hospital In Ridgewood: 192.8

 

[mondaro]

Thanks Everyone...

I should have complete in work. I am back tomorrow.

Tony

 

[mondaro]

This is the info I found this morning.
Please let me know any corrections -
If I don't show the hospital I did not
have the tone.

Erik Aronson - Northwest Communications also helped with some of
this information.

NNNN

NJ Hospital PL Codes on Jems 2 - 155.3400

Atlantic - Shore Memorial -114.8

Bergen - Englewood - 114.8
Hackensack - 167.9 or 100.0 ( Not Sure which one is correct)
Holy Name - 103.5
Pascack Valley - 192.8

Camden County

West Jersey - Eastern Div: 203.5

Cape May - Burdette Tomlin: 114.8

Cumberland - Bridgeton 110.9
Newcomb - 77.0

Essex County - Clara Maass - 218.1
Essex County - Columbus - 156.7
Essex County - East Orange - 250.3
Essex County - Montainside - 167.9
Essex County - Newarl Beth - 74.4
Essex County - REMCS - 127.3
Essex County - St Barnabas - 233.6
Essex County - St James - 118.8
Essex County - St Mikes - 77.0
Essex County - UMDNJ - 127.3

Note.. Most local squads if going into a newark hospital will come up on
REMCS channel 5 155.295 pl 85.4 to make a notification. REMCS is outstanding
with assisitng the EMS with notifications.

Gloucester County - Underwoord 167.9

Hudson County - Hudcen - 146.2
Hudson County - Meadowlands - 206.5
Hudson County - St Marys - 82.5

Hunterdon - 192.8

Mercer - Hamilton 67.0
Mercer - Princeton 156.7
Mercer - Trenton 225.7
Mercer - St Francis - 88.5

Middlesex - Edison: 225.7
Middlesex - RWJ 173.8 / 114.8 ( Please Confirm)

Morris - Chilton - 94.8
Morris - St Claires ( Dover ) 203.5
Morris - St Clairs ( Denville ) 118.8
Morris - Morristown - 71.9
Morris - Riverside 88.5

Passaic - Barnert - 186.2
Passaic - Beth Israel - 88.5
Passaic - Passaic Gen - 79.7
Passaic - St Joe's ( Paterson ) 123.0
Passaic - St Mary's - 91.5

Salem - Salem County Mem. 136.5

Somerset - Somerset Medical Center - 103.5

Sussex - Newton - 141.3
Sussex - Wallkill - 82.5

Union - Elizabeth Gen. 85.4
Union - Union - 210.7
Union - Muhlenberg - 136.5
Union - Overlook - 131.8
Union - Rahway - 241.8
Union - St Elizabeth - 85.4

Warren - Hackettstown - 167.9
Warren - Warren ER - 85.4

Please folks any corrections please post - Thank You

Tony

 

[stvnd53]

You go Eric!Finally a "Complete"list

 

[squad1321]

Question for you fine folk:

Since these hospitals are using PL tones on their EMS-2 radios, does that mean they keep their ER radio open all the time and the squads no longer use DTMF tones to open them up?

Thanks.

 

[apu]

The PL tones are speed dials of sorts. We have our radios programmed for the hospitals we go to frequently so it just sends the right tone and we don't have to dial anything to reach them. But, if we come up on the JEMS2/HEAR channel in carrier squelch mode, we can still dial the appropriate DTMF tones for anyone that is not pre-programmed.

From the hospital ends, their radios open if it is the correct PL or if it is the right DTMF sequence.

 

[jaymatt1978]

I still hear (no pun intended) ambulances "dial" a hospital number over 155.3400 all the time. However some ambulance radio plans I have seen have only have 155.3400 in it once. So that means ALL ambulance have at least ONE radio with a DTMF mic in it. I think what happens is the four digit DTMF tones select the right PL tone. Every hospital has its own DTMF that corresponds with a PL tone. It has been like this for years. It's just like some ham repeaters have a DTMF tone to disable PL, these radios have a DTMF tone to ENABLE a certain PL.

 

[mondaro]

I think by the state of NJ DOH it is recommended to have one mic with a key pad or a key pad on the radio head to by able to dial into the HEAR system. However I may be wrong on this.

I wish the NJDOH / OEMS would have something like the HERN & MICU network for the BLS squads which would insure communications with our county or local based EMS communications centers. Currently when it comes to these NJSP 800 trunked systems the BLS units are left out in the cold once agian.

 

[squad1321]

Thanks for clearing up my HEAR PL / DTMF question for N. Jersey.

In Monmouth County, most hospitals do not keep their HEAR radio on or they will turn the volume down all the way. Now that they all have the madatory HERN radios, I guess they feel they are being EMS compliant, though as you said, BLS does not use this system.

For the few Mon. Co. hospitals that do have a working HEAR radio, it is still controlled via the (4) DTMF codes with CSQ.

 

[robbinsj2]

I still hear (no pun intended) ambulances "dial" a hospital number over 155.3400 all the time. However some ambulance radio plans I have seen have only have 155.3400 in it once. So that means ALL ambulance have at least ONE radio with a DTMF mic in it. I think what happens is the four digit DTMF tones select the right PL tone. Every hospital has its own DTMF that corresponds with a PL tone. It has been like this for years. It's just like some ham repeaters have a DTMF tone to disable PL, these radios have a DTMF tone to ENABLE a certain PL.

The DTMF code opens up the hospital's radio to carrier squelch, and really have nothing to do with the local radio. In fact the HEAR radios I used to use were purchased (ages ago) without DTMF ability and were programmed with a couple dozen channels with different PLs on 155.340, for most of the hospitals we were even remotely likely to visit. Since then the squad purchased DTMF microphones, which the radio didn't interact with except to pass through audio (voice and tone) onto the radio frequency. Another squad seemed to have butchered a touch-tone phone and wired its keypad and tone generator to the radio (surely it was a good job using parts manufactured for that purpose, and it worked well, but it looked a little odd).

When not in carrier squelch mode, it appears that many hospitals remain in tone-squelch which would permit a transmitter with the proper PL to bypass the DTMF hassle. I believe the PL functionality predates the DOH's current DTMF (minimum) requirement. Further, I believe that this is something hospitals have opted to do, and are by no means bound to do or maintain.

So the DTMF doesn't "enable a certain PL," it disables the hospital's PL squelch (or total squelch). And in that regard it is just like the amateur repeaters whose receive tone squelch is deactivated by a DTMF code.

Another anecdote: at least one local EMS agency always transmits 103.5 on 155.340, apparently because that's what MedCentral seems to squelch to except when opened up by RWJ's DTMF code. As a result, MedCentral and Somerset MC are presumably listening when they dial in to some other hospital.

Jim

 

[squad1321]

Good explaination. Our local hospitals use "Total Squelch" mode, until the DTMF code is received. Also, the Mon. Co. Radio Room keeps their JEMS-2 channel on Total Squelch, until 6300 is dialed.

 

[hulka]

Tony,
The hospitals in Ocean County all used the same pl of 186.2. CMC Med-Com before the Monoc merger used DTMF of 6501, KMC 6502, Brick 6504 I beleive and I think SOCH was 6505. 6503 I beleive was Point when it was considered a hospital. If I recall I beleive that most of the Monmouth County used 151.4. The PL was only on the Tx side. Rx was CS.

Back in the day when med com was in the hospital and if a rig dialed into CMC for a report after they dialed 6501 you would wait a few seconds, about 2, then you would hear a tone saying that you opened the channel, if you dialed lets say 335 after that tone the console would show 335, and they would know what rig was calling. After the report was done you would push the reset button on the console and it would reenable the squelch. The DTMF tone was like a pager tone in a sense, when it received the proper signal it would open up the channel to hear what was going on.

 

[stvnd53]

In the Survey Report for Emergency Ambulance,on page 2 are the requirments for "Radio Communication".
Mobile radio(s) operates on 155.340Mhz. and 155.280 Mhz. has a dual-tone,multi-frequency(touch-tone)encoder in patient or driver compartment.
For paid service this is a MUST!When the State inspects the rig,and it's not there W/codes near by,YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE Renewal Sticker.You are out of service!!!!

 

[Joseph11]

CMC Med-Com before the Monoc merger used DTMF of 6501, KMC 6502, Brick 6504 I beleive and I think SOCH was 6505. 6503 I beleive was Point when it was considered a hospital.

6504 is SOCH and 6505 is Brick.

Back in the day when med com was in the hospital and if a rig dialed into CMC for a report after they dialed 6501 you would wait a few seconds, about 2, then you would hear a tone saying that you opened the channel, if you dialed lets say 335 after that tone the console would show 335, and they would know what rig was calling. After the report was done you would push the reset button on the console and it would reenable the squelch. The DTMF tone was like a pager tone in a sense, when it received the proper signal it would open up the channel to hear what was going on.

I sometimes hear DTMF go out over EMS-2 and hear a hospital (full quieting; probably CMC) respond back with a Plectron siren. I never hear anyone respond or an ambulance say anything. The only hospital that still uses EMS-2 in Ocean County is SOCH.

 

[mtamburro]

Although it doesn't have the information you're looking for, this document does have a lot of information pertaining to the hospital radio:

http://www.state.nj.us/health/ems/documents/jems.pdf

 

[jaymatt1978]

Thinking about what Jim said, and going back to my ham radio analogy, he's right. The DTMF DISABLES the hospital RECEIVE because I have seen some ambulances transmit PL and some that don't transmit PL and get into the hospital radios just fine.

 

[mondaro]

What Hospital Emergency Department / Rooms still have a Hospital Emergency Ambulance Radio (HEAR) still " IN SERVICE " Ambulances are STILL required by the NJDOH to have JEMS 2 AKA The Hear Radio Channel but many hospital have turned them off or don't answer them.