Odd use of words

[DickH]

I use a Merriam-Webster dictionary. While it is perhaps not Gospel. it seems accurate.
So when I see words such as "deprecate" and "collaborate" used on RR, they don't seem to fit in with the intended meaning. For example,. "deprecate", in my dictionary, means to express disapproval or belittle, but it seems to be being used to mean remove or delete.which a far cry from the dictionary's definition.
Likewise, collaborate means to work jointly with others, as in writing a book. That seems to be much different than the way it is being used in RR.
Just my observation.

 

[GTR8000]

The function tag "Deprecated" in the RRDB is being used in the computing sense, meaning "Obsolescent; considered obsolete but still available for use, though planned to be phased out."

The "Collaborate" link takes you to the Wiki pages, which is an open, joint project among many members.

Both terms make perfect sense in the manner in which they are used here on RR. You just need to expand your reference tools rather than limiting yourself to a single source.

 

[bobs415]

Actually, the term you are looking for is DEPRECIATE, pronounced dee-pree-shee-ate. "One's car depreciates in value." Dick's definitions are correct.

The other term you seek is COLLABORATION, which is a project among many.

Two cents from a retired English teacher....

 

[GTR8000]

Actually, the term you are looking for is DEPRECIATE, pronounced dee-pree-shee-ate. "One's car depreciates in value." Dick's definitions are correct.

Merriam-Webster, the same source cited by Dick, lists "depreciated" as a synonym for "deprecated".

Words do take on new and expanded meanings and definitions over time. This is especially true when dealing with how words are used in relation to ever-changing technology. The usage of "deprecated" here on RR is a perfect example of that, as I already pointed out in my previous post. :wink:

The other term you seek is COLLABORATION, which is a project among many.

Collaborate = collaboration, just different forms of the word. The former being the intransitive verb, the latter being the noun. Because the act of clicking the "Collaborate" link is an action, the usage on RR is correct.


Class dismissed. :twisted:

 

[bobs415]

I'd concede the "C" thing, but you're dead wrong on depreciate vs deprecate. The latter is simply a bastardization of the former. So their!

 

[DaveNF2G]

I'd concede the "C" thing, but you're dead wrong on depreciate vs deprecate. The latter is simply a bastardization of the former. So their!

Speaking of bastardization - their/there/they're!

Everyone who has commented on the technological usage of "deprecate" is correct. It threw me when I first encountered it several years ago.

People online love to speak with authority they don't have, based on information that is out of date. Maybe a subscription to A Word A Day would help.

 

[bobs415]

hah.....can't pull one over on RR boys! You caught that, huh?

 

[WA1ATA]

Deprecate is a word with a very specific meaning and connotations. It is NOT the same as depreciate.

Deprecate is often used when referring to various standards. For example http://www.usb.org/developers/Deprecation_Announcement_052507.pdf is an announcement by the USB standards organization announced the deprecation of the mini USB connector.

The mini USB standard is still valid, but the micro USB is recommended as the replacement in all new designs.

 

[DonS]

Where's the conflict between the dictionary's definition and the RR usage of "deprecated"?

"Deprecate" is a transitive verb meaning "to express disapproval of" (definition #2 according to Merriam-Webster's online version). If something has been "deprecated" then it has been disapproved. If an old (but approved at one point in time) version of a thing has been disapproved (deprecated) in favor of a newer version of the thing, then the older version is "obsolete" - is that not what is intended by the RR usage?

 

[Squad10]

" When people can’t read or write, you get a problem with "illegitimacy."

 

[bobs415]

That's ashore.

 

[eorange]

Someone's scanner must no longer be working. That's all I can figure.

 

[DonS]

Someone's scanner must no longer be working. That's all I can figure.

Maybe it was deprecated* when some people collaborated** to release a competing model.


* it was disapproved by the competition
** a bunch of engineers and/or marketeers worked together toward a common goal

 

[loumaag]

:lol:
This is almost an identical discussion that was had among the staff over 5 years ago. The discussion then was even more amusing than the one above.
:lol:

Guys, the words used here on the site are used as intended.

Deprecated = Obsolete, no longer active.
Collaborate = Work with others toward an end goal.