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I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT AND TO THE PIONT .JUST MOVED TO CALIFORNIA GRAMPS WANTS TO LISTEN TO THE LOCAL POLICE & SHERIFF LIKE HE DID BACK HOME BUT HIS SCANNER WON'T WORK HERE,WRONG KIND .IS THERE AWAY I CAN GET THE EL CENTRO POLICE DEPT. & IMPERIAL Co. SHERIFF. WITHOUT HAVING TO $500 - $600 FOR A NEW SCANNER ? THANKS
 

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Why won't his scanner work? Does it not scan the police/sheriff range? You can search the database here on rr and find the frequencies for your local area. He doesn't need an expensive scanner for that. Please me know if I'm not understanding you.
 
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yes you are right CharlesDom it won't work in that range from what I understand he would need 1 that has digital trunking.
 

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Well in that case it will cost a little more. You may be able to find some good deals on Ebay. If you're just looking for trunking, then my guess is around $200, throw in digital and you can add about another $100-$150. There's also a sales forum here on rr. Look around first, decide exactly what he needs then figure out how much money you want to spend, make that need to spend. lol

Good luck.
 

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WOWWHOSTHATCHICK said:
yes you are right CharlesDom it won't work in that range from what I understand he would need 1 that has digital trunking.

You'll need a digital scanner like the Uniden BC-396T.
Expect to pay around $500. for any new digital scanner.
 
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i wish i could say i knew how to do that antfreq ...but but i must admit I'm scanner dumb! I went to the link you gave but nothing says El Centro PD or Imperial County... but I did learn they are part of this San Diego, County of (RCS - Public Safety) System

US > California > Multiple Counties System Information Last Updated on 10-14-2007 13:37

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System Name: San Diego, County of (RCS - Public Safety)
Location: None, CA
County: 2 counties
System Type: Motorola Type II SmartZone
System Voice: Analog and APCO-25 Common Air Interface
Sysid: 470f
CT: 105.88
Uniden DSP: 0333 1985 3542
 

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WOWWHOSTHATCHICK said:
I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT AND TO THE PIONT .JUST MOVED TO CALIFORNIA GRAMPS WANTS TO LISTEN TO THE LOCAL POLICE & SHERIFF LIKE HE DID BACK HOME BUT HIS SCANNER WON'T WORK HERE,WRONG KIND .IS THERE AWAY I CAN GET THE EL CENTRO POLICE DEPT. & IMPERIAL Co. SHERIFF. WITHOUT HAVING TO $500 - $600 FOR A NEW SCANNER ? THANKS

Both of those are part of the San Diego County RCS. A trunk tracking scanner - and one with APCO digital decoding abilities - is needed. For hand held models, there is the Uniden BCD396T, the just released GRE PSR-500, and a Radio Shack model (that I can't remember offhand.) For base units, your choices are the Uniden BCD996T, the GRE PSR-600, and a Radio Shack model that I don't remember. Some good used units are available for around $400, but a new one will set you back $500. Good luck.
 

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You can probably find a used PRO-96 or 2096 for a lot less than $500. They'll perform better than the 396 if he solely listens to digital (or the RCS for that matter).
 

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Heck it even has make offer on that listing, Start off lower and see where they go. Also there are a couple of 2096s at the bottom of the page..............Hoser
 

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You can probably find a used PRO-96 or 2096 for a lot less than $500. They'll perform better than the 396 if he solely listens to digital (or the RCS for that matter).

"Better" is a subjective term. I like the BCD396T better. Plus, is the PRO-96 firmware upgradeable for the upcoming Public Service 800MHz rebanding (which is now under way)? The BCD396T is. That's just one more thing to consider.
 

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Trooperdude there are other sellers this was an example of listing's. They still have a 98.2 percent rating with 15,194 transactions and an overall rating of 4 1/2 out of 5. When dealing with the feedback it pays to look at the details.
UCLAN the 396 was mentioned above and Gramps couldnt afford it. Im sure Wayne knew that too. As far as rebanding, who knows who will need it at this point. Regards Hoser
 

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UCLAN said:
"Better" is a subjective term. I like the BCD396T better. Plus, is the PRO-96 firmware upgradeable for the upcoming Public Service 800MHz rebanding (which is now under way)? The BCD396T is. That's just one more thing to consider.
Well, you're in the subjective minority then. You must have a special 396 if it sounds better on the RCS then a 96. It's also not confirmed that the 96 and its custom tables will not support rebanding. Poor choice for the defense. Given this situation the 96 or 2096 is the better scanner. No futzing with signal quality levels; the 96 is just plug and play.
 

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hoser147 said:
Trooperdude there are other sellers this was an example of listing's. They still have a 98.2 percent rating with 15,194 transactions and an overall rating of 4 1/2 out of 5. When dealing with the feedback it pays to look at the details.
UCLAN the 396 was mentioned above and Gramps couldnt afford it. Im sure Wayne knew that too. As far as rebanding, who knows who will need it at this point. Regards Hoser

ALL 800MHz Public Service systems will be rebanded. See http://www.800ta.org/
If you monitor a 800MHz band Public Service system, I wouldn't suggest buying a
new scanner unless its firmware can be updated to support realignment.
 

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I want to get back to the topic of the price of new scanners that was referenced many posts back. People seem to think that scanners used to cost less in the past than the digital trunked models do today and I would say, yes and no. We are somewhat used to electronic products going down in price once a particular technology is introduced and the examples of current products are numerous. GPS units and DVD recorders are good examples. Scanners don't seem to follow the trend as much as the new digitals are costing $500 or more. Compared to other radio products this is fairly steep as they are not built as well as commercial grade handhelds and mobiles. Those commercial grade products don't have the same flexibility as a scanner does but the hardware (cases, antenna connectors, keypads, and display screens) is more bomb proof than scanners. I don't know of any scanner that can pass the mil-spec vibration tests. So in that sense scanners are pretty expensive. $500 is a lot of money and for most of us is not just lying around waiting to be used while burning a hole in our pockets.

On the "no" side are my observations of buying somewhere close to 20 scanners over the last 37 years. My first scanner was a Regency 8 channel crystal tuned radio and it cost about $100 - $110. Each crystal cost about $3 - $5 dollars. This scanner only covered VHF-Hi and if I wanted to listen to the CHP or LASO I would have to buy another scanner for $100 plus $25 - $40 in crystals, depending on whether the frequency was popular and in stock or had to be special ordered. I was making somewhere between $1.50 and $1.75 an hour in a part time job while going to college when I took the plunge on that Regency. It was more expensive to me at the time than the $500 models we have now given what I made then and how much other products, services, and property cost at the time. I have a receipt for my first programmable scanner, a Bearcat 210 I purchased in 1979 for $240. The Radio Shack PRO-30, my first programmable handheld, cost $315 in 1984. Some years later, in 1999, I have a receipt for a PRO-92, a scanner with trunking capability and an alpha numeric display showing a cost of $340. Now a scanner with those features is about $150 - $200 if I remember correctly and it has been just 8 years. My first quality HF receiver, a Yaesu FRG-7700 was over $500 with shipping in 1980 and many of my co-workers thought I was crazy to pay that much for a radio then. Given the comparisons of those prices to the price of other goods and services at the time, the $500 scanner of today costs about what the latest scanner did, or maybe even less, back in those "good old days."

Technology was changing quickly then as well. When I bought the Regency in 1970, it was quickly outdated by the VHF both high and low model that came out less than a year later. When you purchased that one there was already demand for a UHF model as there were rumors that the LAPD and some federal agencies had already moved up to that band and we could not listen to them.

Being in rural areas and smaller urban areas makes things less expensive and the scanner you buy lasts quite a bit longer. For law enforcement traffic my 1970 Regency works reasonably well in the area I live in and will work quite well until local agencies have to utilize narrow band. Its main problem is that decent receiver performance is limited to about 4-5 MHz and listening to the USFS/NPS/BLM and Fish and Game and CDF at the same time, without re-peaking the radio, is not possible. You have always been forced to have the latest and greatest when using a scanner in large urban areas.

In ham radio there is a joke that "ham" actually means "has adequate money." But is it a really expensive hobby? Yes, it can be if you build a really neat console, have linear amplifiers, antenna tuners, with multiple beams, rotors, and a couple of one hundred+ foot towers. However, compare that with the cost of buying a boat and towing vehicle to go water skiing or the price of a downhill skiing daily lift ticket. In the latter case count up the price of lodging, lessons, clothes, transportation, skis, boots, meals, and child care if you have kids that don't ski. If you have kids that ski then the bucks really start adding up! Take a look at the cost of bass fishing or duck hunting. How about the price of going to a sporting event? Ham radio and scanners are cheap in comparison in my opinion.

Given these comparisons I don't think $500 for a scanner with the most current capabilities is really that expensive. This has always been a hobby where being able to listen to everything is a challenge both financially and technically. You have to "pay to play!"
 
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