Darkspace109
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Anyone having range issues with Orange County system. I’m in Seminole but have been getting out of range notice the past 2 days.
Orange County system issues
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I know serval people with the same issue on 46C. I believe it's only affecting RFSS 1 / Site 1. Maybe try posting this question in the Unication forum and see if anyone else ever had this issue on other systems. As far as I know nothing changed system wide relating to WACN, SYSID, RFSS and Site numbers. And the control channel frequencies are all the same. What firmware version are you using? It's a long shot but maybe try to update to 1.35 and/or re-program the radio.
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Maybe a nearby cell tower interfering?
stite 1.1 is working on system radios and scanners however it appears the Unication is the only one affected
generally i am finding if there is any issue in the site data from the tower the Unications dont like it at all, however all other radios ignore it
generally i am finding if there is any issue in the site data from the tower the Unications dont like it at all, however all other radios ignore it
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Any work around to this?
There's a thread about this in the Unication forum. You'll probably want to read it.
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Can you link it, sorry still don’t think I understand what’s going on.
Been driving me crazy for 3 days now. 3 G4's and all are deaf on RFSS 1 / Site 1. No signal strength at all. Site 3 is fine. I'm pretty sure its not the radio....just some small change in the system that the G4 can't compensate for. I entered the control channel as a conventional frequency and it's loud & clear (near UCF). Pulled out the old BCD436 and all is well there. On another thread from a few years back, there was a similar occurrence on another system (Fairfax I believe). It resolved itself with no clear reason.
Here's the link:
forums.radioreference.com
Here's the link:
G4 looses signal on local system
My G4 suddenly lost reception of my local system. I have 5 other county systems that are still all OK. I have 4 scanners, a Relm P800 that are all still receiving fine. It is a Phase 1 system that has always worked perfectly. I have run Pro96com from another scanner and nothing has changed...
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Just knock three times on the ceiling and it will clear right up.
.... cannot offer anything other than
1. DSD+ isn't throwing anything odd in the data stream as far as I can tell - decoding is working fine, and I'm a long way away from that site.
2. I am unaware of any changes to the system.
3. I ASSume that you made no programming or firmware changes to your Unication radios? (have you tried to factory reset them and re-program?)
1. DSD+ isn't throwing anything odd in the data stream as far as I can tell - decoding is working fine, and I'm a long way away from that site.
2. I am unaware of any changes to the system.
3. I ASSume that you made no programming or firmware changes to your Unication radios? (have you tried to factory reset them and re-program?)
3 radios with the same problem beginning at the same time. No recent programming changes. All radios still receiving Site 3 as well as Osceola and Seminole County systems. Only the Orange County Site 1 is affected. Did a factory reset on one of the radios and results are still the same. I have a friend on the other side of the county and he's having the same problem.
also tried setting the RFSS ID and Site ID to the wildcard search in PPS using "FF"...and no luck
.... wow .... gremlins....
What firmware version are you using that are experiencing this issue? I am on 1.32
Been on 1.34 since it came out (last summer/early fall I think). I know some have mentioned issues with it but I never had any problems until the last few days. There's also a thread going in the Unication forums on Facebook. Seems several us in Orange County are having the same problem. With this affecting all 3 of my radios at the same time, and the fact that I can still hear the system with a Bearcat 436, I can only guess that there was some small change on the system itself. The only other thread that references this sort of problem (link above) mentions a change in the band plan from 12.5khz to 6.25. There is no way in the G4 to change the band plan for trunking frequencies so I can't verify this. I can change the band plan on the Bearcat. Currently I have no band plan loaded and I'm receiving normally. Entering the band plan for site 1.1 as published in the RR database works fine also. If I then set all the spacing to 12.5, signal strength shows that the control channel is being received but the radio is dead to all talk groups. If the system has been changed to 6.25khz spacing, I have no idea why and I'm starting to get a bit over my head. If the G4 would allow 6.25 spacing then I would be closer to a solution
this is from DSD+ today same as what it's always been:
Network: BEE00.46C ; Orange County
Bandplan #0: Base=851.00625 Offset=-45 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Bandplan #1: Base=762.00625 Offset=+30 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Bandplan #2: Base=851.0125 Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2
Bandplan #3: Base=762.00625 Offset=+30 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2
Network: BEE00.46C ; Orange County
Bandplan #0: Base=851.00625 Offset=-45 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Bandplan #1: Base=762.00625 Offset=+30 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Bandplan #2: Base=851.0125 Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2
Bandplan #3: Base=762.00625 Offset=+30 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2
Hi Doug, can you check another site other than the simulcast (one that is working) to see if there are any differences in the band plan?. I'm having issues with my laptop DSD-plus etc is on right now
Sorry to be an interloper, but if this is a MSI system the band plan will be the same for all sites as it’s a system-wide setting. The only way it can be different is if the site is in site trunking. And even then Voyence should have caught it being different and updated the site controllers in the site.
Thanks Kevin, now back to the drawing board
call me crazy, but has anyone looked at the signal strength of the prime site CC?
i can normally copy this 85+% from my QTH.. as of today, I can't decode squat. perhaps the CC transmitter power is down?
just a thought.
i can normally copy this 85+% from my QTH.. as of today, I can't decode squat. perhaps the CC transmitter power is down?
just a thought.
