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P5100 Programming problem

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groftcc

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I am trying to read a P5100. I am getting a "Can not initialize radio, check connections....." I have a Jag 700P that works fine with my set up. The 5100 goes into programming mode fine. I am using Programmer Ver 16. Any thoughts? Thanks!!

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Thanks for the hint. The radio had the protective plastic on the lcd when I recieved it. Maybe it was recased and something didn't line up. I just purchased this radio from a dealer. I have an email in to him about the problem. I would hope that the radio was tested before it was sold, but you never know. Thanks again.

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Elroy, how do you remove the front shield on the 5100 radios. I see the torx screws, but what is holding on the top of the front shield to the radio? Thanks!!

Craig
 

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groftcc said:
I just purchased this radio from a dealer.
Craig

How long ago was the radio purchased? There should be a slip of paper with manufacture data on it, such as ESN, Feature String as well as what features are in the radio. On this sheet, there should be a radio code listed. One thing to be aware of is that if the radio came from the factory with R13 code, it can only be programmed with RPM, which is the new radio programmer.

All new radios being shipped from the manufacturer are being shipped programmed with RPM. This has been the case for at least 2 months now. All users using older versions of ProGrammer all the way to the final version (20) will be required to upgrade to RPM to program all new radios.

RPM and ProGrammer will both run on the same machine with no problems bewteen the two.
 

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groftcc said:
I just purchased this radio from a dealer.
Craig

How long ago was the radio purchased? There should be a slip of paper with manufacture data on it, such as ESN, Feature String as well as what features are in the radio. On this sheet, there should be a radio code listed. One thing to be aware of is that if the radio came from the factory with R13 code, it can only be programmed with RPM, which is the new radio programmer.

All new radios being shipped from the manufacturer are being shipped programmed with RPM. This has been the case for at least 2 months now. All users using older versions of ProGrammer all the way to the final version (20) will be required to upgrade to RPM to program all new radios.

RPM and ProGrammer will both run on the same machine with no problems bewteen the two.
 

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groftcc said:
I just purchased this radio from a dealer.
Craig

How long ago was the radio purchased? There should be a slip of paper with manufacture data on it, such as ESN, Feature String as well as what features are in the radio. On this sheet, there should be a radio code listed. One thing to be aware of is that if the radio came from the factory with R13 code, it can only be programmed with RPM, which is the new radio programmer.

All new radios being shipped from the manufacturer are being shipped programmed with RPM. This has been the case for at least 2 months now. All users using older versions of ProGrammer all the way to the final version (20) will be required to upgrade to RPM to program all new radios.

RPM and ProGrammer will both run on the same machine with no problems bewteen the two.
 

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The radio is used, and I have no idea what version of programmer was used at the dealer. What are the symptoms of have a lower version of programmer and trying to read a radio that has been programmed with RPS? My radio goes into programming mode, when you click the read button in programmer the radio display changes to program and then I get the error message in programmer.

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Check in the menu for features or revision, that will tell you what the flash code is.

You might not need RPM, but you may need a newer version of programmer or an older flashcode. R11 flashcode works with Programmer V20a, but I can not remember any of the other version compatabilities.
 

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groftcc said:
The flash version is:

J2R02A04

Would this require RPS?

Craig

Craig,

The code above is a very old code but does not require RPM. The last code before Version 20 of ProGrammer was J2R09B02 I believe. J2R11 started with Rev 20. I would definitely update the code.

When trying to enter program mode there are 2 methods. The main method is to hold the PTT key for a few seconds while turning on the radio. The error you describe does appear sometimes when this does not work. The second method is to hold all 3 side keys for a few seconds while turning on the radio.

If you are using a laptop, make sure it is plugged in. If you are using a programming cable that runs through a RIB, try plugging the RIB in.
 

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Thanks for the info. I am using the 3 side button method for entering programming mode. Thanks again.

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I am using a price programming cabe that has the rib built in. It has work great with my 700P. Any reason why it might not work with the 5100?

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groftcc said:
I am using a price programming cabe that has the rib built in. It has work great with my 700P. Any reason why it might not work with the 5100?

Craig

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. I use a M/A-Com supplied programming cable with no problems.
 

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The 5100 and 7100 series have a "secret" to their disassembly.

Remove the belt clip. There's a short T6 Torx screw under its space on the back of the radio. Remove that screw.

The back section of the radio above the battery compartment is a plastic cover. It snaps
onto the radio and is secured with the screw.

To unsnap it, insert a flat bladed screwdriver into the receptacle on the upper inside of
the battery well. Pry gently at each side and the plastic back cover pops off. Remove
that cover, and now the last two screws that hold the radio together are accessible.

The Jaguar, 7100, 5100, LPE, and MRK all use the same programming cable.


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The old flash codes for the Jags/P7100s Versions R02 and R03 HAVE to be programmed with the rib box and the +12Volt supply to the RIB power plug. The ribless cable will not work. If you can't get your hands on one, get the J2R11B01 flash and F4R06H01 DSP codes prferably (J2R08A05 minimum), go into radio maintenance and try to recover the radio. At the end of the recovery it will ask you if you want to erase the EEPROM, select NO. Go back to programmer and load in your personality.
 

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Before you even think about going into radio recovery, read and SAVE the current radio code, ADI/DSP, tracking data, and feature string.


If you fail to do that and something happens, you can cause yourself a major headache from
pounding your head on the wall after bricking the radio because you neglected to save all that CRITICAL data and now you need it.s

And get yourself a genuine GE TQ3370 radio interface box and appropriate cables. I DO NOT TRUST AFTERMARKET PROGRAMMING SOLUTIONS.

I have found that they do NOT work for anything but ordinary programming of radio codeplugs. They don't work for anything involving radio flashing.

Not in my experience.


Elroy
 
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