Pro-96 and Digital laws !

[garikfox]

In my Hometown Mesa, AZ They have the APCO-25 Digitial, I pick up all 4 of there districts, BUT My question is, WHy and how they Encrypt ?

All the 4 Dispatch channels are De-Cryptrpted, but When they GOTO TAC/TALK for any reason just beacuase its Encrypted its STILL should be public knowledge ?

What going on here >?

So by LAW no digital system should Encrypt !!

 

[mancow]

What if they are talking about working a confidential informant? Or, what if someone is driving by giving the description of a residence to someone else who is typing up a search warrant ?

Should that be public knowledge? Think of the consequences. Would you want to be the first guy in the stick through the door on a high risk warrant if the bad guys were listening all the while and knew you were on the way?

The reasons are too numerous to even begin to list.

 

[JoeyC]

So by LAW no digital system should Encrypt !!

What law?

This has been discussed NUMEROUS times in the past. No you don't have any right to listen in on an agency that has decided to use encryption.

 

[garikfox]

I understand, Didnt used to be like this.

Me wants full scoop, lol

 

[Bentley]

I understand, Didnt used to be like this.

I hear that...but the digital age is just becoming more and more advanced. USED to be able to hear anything and everything. It definitley sucks...but, I am 100% in favor of officer safety first. So, if this means not listening to encryped transmissions then so be it.

 

[grem467]

Posts like this are EXACTLY the reason our law enforcement TGs ARE encrypted.

 

[lowboy654]

I hear that...but the digital age is just becoming more and more advanced. USED to be able to hear anything and everything. It definitley sucks...but, I am 100% in favor of officer safety first. So, if this means not listening to encryped transmissions then so be it.

I am with you on this, officer safety first

 

[N_Jay]

I understand, Didnt used to be like this.

Me wants full scoop, lol

Me wants you to speak clearly, but like you I am disappointed when I don't get what I desire.

No laws have changes, just encryption has become better and less expensive.

Anything that is better and less expensive there will be more of.

 

[loumaag]

I should have moved this thread the other day. It has no reason to be in the Radio Shack Forum and every reason to be in the proper regional forum.

 

[GTO_04]

Posts like this are EXACTLY the reason our law enforcement TGs ARE encrypted.

When main dispatch TGs are encrypted, things like this will not happen:

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/local/14413488.htm

And even more important, things like this won't happen:

http://www.tylerpaper.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16365734&BRD=1994&PAG=461&dept_id=226369&rfi=6

And this:

http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060327/NEWS/603270351/1003/NEWS02

Officer safety and scanner listening are not mutually exclusive. Officers never talk about impending drug raids or search warrants on the dispatch TGs. They don't need to. They have their Nextels for that. And they have their MDTs to check driving records, SSN info, etc.

GTO_04

 

[InlandAZ]

When main dispatch TGs are encrypted, things like this will not happen:

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/local/14413488.htm

And even more important, things like this won't happen:

http://www.tylerpaper.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16365734&BRD=1994&PAG=461&dept_id=226369&rfi=6

And this:

http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060327/NEWS/603270351/1003/NEWS02

Officers never talk about impending drug raids or search warrants on the dispatch TGs. GTO_04

Apparently you don't monitor Tempe/Chandler much - For awhile there you could pick out a swat raid night after night after night (right out in open/unencrypted/non digital frequencies).

Not once did I ever hear any complaints about the criminals listening in and successfully evading capture. I certainly can empathize with the position of officer safety, but to a large extent I believe it's overplayed.

 

[mesocyclone]

Good grief. Folks would think encryption was something new! The Secret Service and FBI have been doing it for ages.

In the early sixties, in small town Kansas, I started making and selling widgets (converters) that would let people listen in on the police with their car radios. Shortly after that, the town police started encrypting (of course, since it wasn't digital, the more correct term was scrambling). They used frequency inversion, which today would be pretty easy to break, but before the age of IC's, was a bit of work).

 

[hulka]

I agree with what N_Jay said. It is a lot more affordable now so agencies are going to start to use it more. Encryption will always be a debate.