PSR-600 Missing First Parts

[EyesofDeath]

Hi all,

I posted this in new user forum and tried the recommendations. I'm still having the same issue. I'm using the PSR-600 and am missing alot of the beginnings of conversations. I am only scanning like 14 channels and the main ones i want to hear are on P25 system.

It will miss like the first second or two of the conversations. So i cant hear what unit is calling in to dispatch or what unit dispatch is talking to. It starts after a delay.

Is there any settings i should change to make it pick up the conversation faster?

Thanks

 

[rdale]

What channels do you have? What system? Are you losing the first two seconds of conv & trunked?

 

[EyesofDeath]

Trunked Louisiana LWIN P25

 

[EyesofDeath]

bump....anyone...anyone?

 

[rdale]

If you turn off the conventional channels do you still miss? And it's EVERY trunked transmission?

 

[pathalogical]

My 106 does this also. Side by side with my PSR 300 on the same analog 800 Mhz trunked system, the 300 is dead on and the 106, as the OP said, about 1-2 seconds late.

 

[rdale]

path - he's talking about a digital system though.

 

[pathalogical]

path - he's talking about a digital system though.

My bad, but I will add I am also missing conversations on my P25 system also.

EyesofDeath - Does it look like the radio 'hangs' or 'sticks' on an ID ?


There have been a few other posts very similar to this problem to which I've added my comments. I don't think it has anything to do with what kind of system one is scanning, but with the radio itself or it's preprogramed global settings or settings that we can adjust. My intention is NOT to hijack this thread, but it's getting to the point where I don't want to use my 2+ year old 106.

If it wasn't for this "problem" I would certainly be taking big advantage of the RS $299 sale....to the point I could start my own reality show...Scanner Hoarding: All Freqed Out ! lol

 

[Mike_G_D]

This old thread, http://forums.radioreference.com/gre-scanners/84307-gre-psr-500-post-release-thread-4.html, created shortly after the 500 came out does talk about this issue in reference to mixed mode analog/P25 CAI Motorola 3600 baud systems. Look for Don Starr's post, number 64, to begin the relevant discussion. However, this would not apply to full P25 9600 baud systems such as what the OP said he was monitoring. It may apply to pathalogical's problem, however.

-Mike

 

[RickS31]

No priority channels set, right? If so, this will cause this.

 

[pathalogical]

This old thread, http://forums.radioreference.com/gre-scanners/84307-gre-psr-500-post-release-thread-4.html, created shortly after the 500 came out does talk about this issue in reference to mixed mode analog/P25 CAI Motorola 3600 baud systems. Look for Don Starr's post, number 64, to begin the relevant discussion. However, this would not apply to full P25 9600 baud systems such as what the OP said he was monitoring. It may apply to pathalogical's problem, however.

-Mike

Thanks for your input. I have played around with DigIntPrime more times than I care to remember. I've had down to 20 with no significant results. This thread is what I was referring to in my above post, check the OP's video. http://forums.radioreference.com/radio-shack-scanners/194346-pro-106-scan-issue.html.

 

[737mech]

First parts

Hi all,

I posted this in new user forum and tried the recommendations. I'm still having the same issue. I'm using the PSR-600 and am missing alot of the beginnings of conversations. I am only scanning like 14 channels and the main ones i want to hear are on P25 system.

It will miss like the first second or two of the conversations. So i cant hear what unit is calling in to dispatch or what unit dispatch is talking to. It starts after a delay.

Is there any settings i should change to make it pick up the conversation faster?

Thanks

I think if you lower your DG INT level (Digital Detect Timeout) that would help you.(Under Expert Settings) What is the current setting? I'm no expert on digital I only have two systems in my area that are. I find a setting of 30 for DG INT good maybe try lower?
Hope this helps.

 

[EyesofDeath]

My DG INT level is at 60, im going to change it to 30 and see if that helps

 

[Mike_G_D]

My DG INT level is at 60, im going to change it to 30 and see if that helps

For pure P25 systems I don't think it will make a difference - it is only applicable for systems with mixed analog and digital users wherein the setting tells the scanner how long to wait to detect a possible digital transmission before unmuting the receiver. In a pure digital P25 9600 baud system there are no analog users so the setting is not needed. I still thought this might help with pathalogical's problem because he said the system he monitors is an analog system. I guess he has already tried it to no avail and I apologize for the poor suggestion on my part - I was unaware that he had already tried this adjustment.

In your case (and pathological's now) I do not know what the problem is. It could be some form of interference (overload, local electrical, whatever) causing decode issues and/or the dreaded linear simulcast problems.

-Mike

 

[EyesofDeath]

yea it didnt help, lowered it to 30 and it is still missing it

 

[Nascar18]

I did a little more testing with the settings, I went up on each one value and I also went up on 96VC XF TO ( I went to 125 from 100) it sounds like it is receiving the P25 800mhz trunking better. Maybe slowing down the scanner is helping. Maybe Don S. can add to it if this makes any sence.


SQ Wait 1 Squelch wait time, same band 10 1-200, x1 ms In-band SQ Timeout
Squelch Time Same Band.-------10 to 11

SQ Wait 2 Squelch wait time, new band 15 1-200, x1 ms Out-of-band SQ Timeout Squelch Time Different Band.-------15 to 16

96VC XF TO Length of time to wait for P25 voice channel digital IMBE timeout.
Default Value:
100 (1000 ms) Values:
10-250, x10 ms (100 - 2500 ms) -------100 to 125

Good Luck

 

[EyesofDeath]

i just changed setting to what Nascar18 stated. I will let you know if it works better for me or not.

 

[EyesofDeath]

i give up, still missing stuff, i guess i'll have to live with it. I get the main parts of the conversations so I can still tell whats going on

 

[Nascar18]

I other thing to try. ROAM hi 90 and low 82. Give it a try.

 

[EyesofDeath]

I have had the multisite mode set to stationary, so I need to change it to Roam?