Puxing PX-888 Not Working with GRMS/FRS

[Connor]

Hi Guys,

I currently picked up a Puxing Px-888 to go hunting with since my Motorola hand held didnt seem to get the range I wanted too so I decided to pick the PX-888 Up. Now I programmed the radio to the GRMS/FRS Freq of the Motorolas HH and my Main Problem is that I cant Transmit on the Puxing. I am able to receive (Talk, Etc) from my Motorola's but I cannot Transmit back on the Puxing. All I hear on the Motorola's when I transmit is static and the line opening and closing

My Spec are as Follow

Step 25K
Squelch 5
N/W- Narrow
Power - High

Any Help would be appreciated Guys!

 

[duchee]

i have a wouxun thats on the way but i will let you know soon if i can even do it or not.

 

[asd6845]

After reading the specs on these radios, it sounds to me that what you are describing is the possibility of the voice scrambler might be active on your Puxing radios.

Hi Guys,

I currently picked up a Puxing Px-888 to go hunting with since my Motorola hand held didnt seem to get the range I wanted too so I decided to pick the PX-888 Up. Now I programmed the radio to the GRMS/FRS Freq of the Motorolas HH and my Main Problem is that I cant Transmit on the Puxing. I am able to receive (Talk, Etc) from my Motorola's but I cannot Transmit back on the Puxing. All I hear on the Motorola's when I transmit is static and the line opening and closing

My Spec are as Follow

Step 25K
Squelch 5
N/W- Narrow
Power - High

Any Help would be appreciated Guys!

 

[duchee]

i dont have a scrambler on my wouxun KG-uvd1 and it still does the same thing.

 

[Citywide173]

Has something changed? Last time I checked, only the PX-777 High Band version had FCC Type acceptance-and that's only for part 90....which would mean that the radio you are trying to use is illegal (so is the Wouxun) in the United States for use on part 90 or 95 frequencies. You readily admit that you have transmitted on it, so there is no question you're using it illegally.

As far as trying to use a cheapo radio from China to get better range than your /\/\ equipment (unless you're referring to blister pack GMRS/FRS), it ain't gonna happen.

I'll refer to this thread:

http://forums.radioreference.com/amateur-radio-equipment/139416-puxing-px-888-a.html

 

[gewecke]

Just a note here,but GMRS is 25 khz. channel spacing,and FRS is 12.5 khz. and deviation needs to be set at 2.5 khz.but as mentioned,those radios are not type accepted for GMRS so you may want to bear that in mind.
n9zas

 

[jimbr1]

I will not address the validity of using these radios on FRS/GMRS channels as it was covered in previous responses. I will however, respond to the questions asked with regard to the radios not communicating with each other. From your description it sounds as though the Motorola radio may have CTCSS tones enabled while the Puxing doesn't (or may be using a different CTCSS tone). In this case the squelch doesn't open up to receive the transmission unless the transmitting radio transmits a matching CTCSS tone. I think that Motorola refers to these as PL tones.

 

[cdesigns]

I have a PX888 and it works great on GMRS , something I noticed is if you are using CTCSS codes they might be different in some bubblepack gmrs radios.

Example:

Puxing: GMRS Ch1 / Code1
othe radios: GMRS Ch1 / Code2

Some motorolas GMRS radio code 1 will be code2 on other radios or viceversa.

My PX888 works great with my uniden GMRS bubblepack radios and my local repeater.

 

[b7spectra]

Do you have the GMRS portion set up as 467/462 split or simplex?

 

[cdesigns]

Do you have the GMRS portion set up as 467/462 split or simplex?

I have both normal FRS/GMRS frequencies simple frequencies and then I have the GMRS frequencies setup for the local repeaters 462/467mhz , I do all my programing with the PX888 software and USB cable. But it can be done manually too exept the name tags

 

[WQFM513]

sounds to me like you might be transmitting on the duplex freqs. a lot of people that come to me to "fix" their radios have this problem.

 

[PHOENIX_SCANNER]

Has something changed? Last time I checked, only the PX-777 High Band version had FCC Type acceptance-and that's only for part 90....which would mean that the radio you are trying to use is illegal (so is the Wouxun) in the United States for use on part 90 or 95 frequencies. You readily admit that you have transmitted on it, so there is no question you're using it illegally.

As far as trying to use a cheapo radio from China to get better range than your /\/\ equipment (unless you're referring to blister pack GMRS/FRS), it ain't gonna happen.

I'll refer to this thread:

http://forums.radioreference.com/amateur-radio-equipment/139416-puxing-px-888-a.html

Oh puleezze! As if the FCC is going to go out looking for someone using these things to hunt with on the frequencies where a kagillion people are out there using them for everything under the sun. This includes a ton of kids playing hide and seek with them, annoying each other with call tones, etc. It's hard enough to get them to crack down on a business or school pirating the frequencies, sometimes using repeaters! I know this from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE! The FCC couldn't give a rat's behind about someone like this guy, and if I were him I would do the same thing. I own Quansheng dual band transceivers that are capable of transmitting on GMRS, MURS, and pretty much anything else VHF or UHF if I so choose for that matter as they are wide open with a huge frequency range on both parts of the spectrum. If I decide use them for GMRS, I will do so without hesitation. I probably won't, as I have them strictly for possible future SHTF type situations (I'm far from the only one who has them for this reason). But I would feel no guilt using them in the GMRS WASTELAND if I felt the desire to.

The FCC allowed GMRS to become a wasteland, and now it is what it is, the modern day version of CB. Too late for them to do or say much about it now, especially as they are removing the license requirement and planning on restructuring the whole thing so that it truly is no more than the 2011 version of CB (stricter power limitations, no repeaters, etc.).

To the OP: Happy hunting, I hope you get your ChiCOM radios working.

 

[Citywide173]

It may be a wasteland in Phoenix, but where I come from, there are many coordinated repeaters and licensed users that follow the rules. They may be changing the license requirement, but they haven't yet. This radio won't play nice with a Motorola radio, it's probably throwing spurious emissions gawd knows where, and it's probably not capable of the new "stricter power limitations" that are coming....anyway you look at it, it's a bad idea to use the radio in a Part 95 application, yet you support his violation of the CFR.....it's people with no respect for the laws of this country that are going to be responsible for the SHTF, so it's probably a good idea that you have your radios.

 

[b7spectra]

Wow! Does one have to actually show the owners of the GMRS system where you are their radio's in order to be able to use them on the repeaters? Do they also make sure that you don't transmit .0001 watt over the license caps? I'll bet they even make you put ANI on your radio as well as "inhibit" capabilities?

GMAFB!

 

[redneckcellphone]

the 2 repeaters i use have a dont ask dont tell policy. i have heard people talk about using modded ham radio but the same guy each time says sshhh...dont ask dont tell

 

[WQFM513]

i really dont care what equipment people use to access my repeater as long as they follow the rules, be licensed, id w/ fcc issued call sign, and wait for a 3 count before speaking after you key up, or have a before tx tone. keeps the first part of what your saying from being cut off by squelch settings on users radios, and repeater rx/tx delay. if they are 40+ miles away and txing 110 watts to get into my repeater, thats on them.

 

[b7spectra]

Amen!

 

[campeck]

Did you ever figure it out? I have one of these on the way.

 

[KD8DVR]

Never mind... was gonna state those radios are illegal on frs/gmrs, but the debate has already been addressed.

 

[bob-the-scanner-man]

You know, I really get a kick out of all the people that come on a topic just to puff out their chest and say "That's illegal" "It's not type accepted for blah blah blah". Seriously, get a life. Stop worrying about someone's radio being type accepted or not. I personally couldn't care less. Here's an idea; worry about yourself and YOUR radios.

To the OP, a lot of the Motorola bubble pack radios are designed so that they can only talk to another Motorola bubble pack radio. Meaning a non-Moto radio can't be received by a Motorola radio. I remember reading something about this somewhere else. I bet if you were to try a Cobra or some other brand it would work just fine. That's what I use, and I've never had an issue.