Sentinel: Sentinel - Move a 'Department' into its Own Favourites List

[Neutrino222]

In the Sentinel software, is it possible to quickly move or copy a department into its own favourites list?

 

[letarotor]

Unfortunately, I don't think so. I've tried to do the same thing and all I could find to do was copy the talk groups and manually create a new favorites list. I think you have to create at least the same number of blank entries also in order to paste what you copied into the new list.

If there is a way, I'd be interested in knowing too!

Brian
COMMSCAN

 

[Neutrino222]

Unfortunately, I don't think so. I've tried to do the same thing and all I could find to do was copy the talk groups and manually create a new favorites list. I think you have to create at least the same number of blank entries also in order to paste what you copied into the new list.

If there is a way, I'd be interested in knowing too!

Brian
COMMSCAN

Sure. These are very basic editing features found in almost all information processing software. I might try Pro Scan.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

I might try Pro Scan.

Yes, Proscan makes favorites list management (moves, copies, pastes, etc) much easier. You can even sort FLs various ways (alphabetically, by frequency & more)

 

[letarotor]

Sure. These are very basic editing features found in almost all information processing software. I might try Pro Scan.

It'd be nice if Sentinel had a way to append a Department to a new Favorites List. I do have ProScan but I haven't used it a whole lot for programming the radio yet. I've mainly just been using it for the PC control of the radio. But I do imagine it would be a lot easier in that software sends it is more customized.

Brian
COMMSCAN

 

[Neutrino222]

Yes, Proscan makes favorites list management (moves, copies, pastes, etc) much easier. You can even sort FLs various ways (alphabetically, by frequency & more)

Well, I just tried it out and it literally took 1 minute. ;-)

 

[hiegtx]

In the Sentinel software, is it possible to quickly move or copy a department into its own favourites list?

It'd be nice if Sentinel had a way to append a Department to a new Favorites List. I do have ProScan but I haven't used it a whole lot for programming the radio yet. I've mainly just been using it for the PC control of the radio. But I do imagine it would be a lot easier in that software sends it is more customized.

Brian
COMMSCAN

Actually, you can do this in Sentinel.

Open the Favorites List that has the department you want to copy to a new (or different) list.

Select the Department that you want to copy, & <right><click> on it.



Sentinel will then pop up a menu asking which list you want to copy into.
Select the existing, or click the button to create a new system.

In this case, for illustration, I'll use my 'Test', which is the one I use for creating screen shots or looking at systems from other areas, to see if I can duplicate their issue & how to resolve it.
That copies the department, as well as the name of the system it is in, to the the destination Favorites list.

If I were to append a Department in a trunked system, then both the selected Department, as well as the site(s) would be appended.



For the trunked system I used for these screenshots, there are three sites, and all three appended with the selected Department.

Of course, as already noted, if you are using ProScan, you can copy or "drag & drop" departments and/or sites however you want.

 

[Neutrino222]

Actually, you can do this in Sentinel.

Open the Favorites List that has the department you want to copy to a new (or different) list.
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Select the Department that you want to copy, & <right><click> on it.

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Sentinel will then pop up a menu asking which list you want to copy into.
Select the existing, or click the button to create a new system.
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In this case, for illustration, I'll use my 'Test', which is the one I use for creating screen shots or looking at systems from other areas, to see if I can duplicate their issue & how to resolve it.
That copies the department, as well as the name of the system it is in, to the the destination Favorites list.
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If I were to append a Department in a trunked system, then both the selected Department, as well as the site(s) would be appended.
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For the trunked system I used for these screenshots, there are three sites, and all three appended with the selected Department.

Of course, as already noted, if you are using ProScan, you can copy or "drag & drop" departments and/or sites however you want.

Ok, I've seen this option, but it's often greyed out. If I was to append a department to a new favourites list, and then delete the original from where it was copied from, I guess the copied list would remain?

 

[hiegtx]

Ok, I've seen this option, but it's often greyed out. If I was to append a department to a new favourites list, and then delete the original from where it was copied from, I guess the copied list would remain?

This has to be done in the main Sentinel screen, not in the Favorites list editor. But in the main window, you do have the option to append (copy) departments, or systems, from one Favorites list to another, or from the main database.The append option is grayed out as far as appending one whole list to another, but if you get down into details of the list, you can append whole systems, or their departments, into a different list. However, you cannot selectively append a site between lists; that option is grayed out. For sites, you'd have to append the system, though (if careful) you can select specific Departments in a trunked system, which will carry the sites over as well (as in the last two screenshots of my previous post).

 

[letarotor]

This has to be done in the main Sentinel screen, not in the Favorites list editor. But in the main window, you do have the option to append (copy) departments, or systems, from one Favorites list to another, or from the main database.The append option is grayed out as far as appending one whole list to another, but if you get down into details of the list, you can append whole systems, or their departments, into a different list. However, you cannot selectively append a site between lists; that option is grayed out. For sites, you'd have to append the system, though (if careful) you can select specific Departments in a trunked system, which will carry the sites over as well (as in the last two screenshots of my previous post).

Thanks for the detailed explanation as well as the screenshots. I'm going to have to try this next time I'm editing with Sentinel.

I currently have lost a lot of my programming in Sentinel and I need to figure out how to get it back by reading the radio before I do anymore editing. I still don't quite understand how, when you delete something from Sentinel, it deletes it and then doesn't read it from the radio back to Sentinel? I've kind of put it off to the side for the last 3 months or so until I have time to sit down and try figuring it out.

I had never had this problem before until I was programming a 436 for somebody and there were some specific channels and departments/systems I didn't want to add into their programming that I have on my SDS200. After deleting them in Sentinel, and after programming up the friend's 436 for them, I never could get back the talk groups and other information I had deleted for their programming. Every time I read my 200 it doesn't put that information into Sentinel. I just haven't had time to sit down and figure this all out plus I'm legally blind and it takes me a lot longer to do this research as to how I get my radio's programming to show back up in Sentinel. I'm kind of hoping I can read the radio on a different PC and it will all show up again in Sentinel. But until I understand it better, I'm not doing any reading or writing from or to my SDS200 using Sentinel.

Anyhow, back on the topic this threat is about, I appreciate your detailed description and examples. I'm eager to try this out. Then again, maybe I should be concentrating on ProScan a little more haha

Brian
COMMSCAN

 

[GTR8000]

There are very good reasons why @ProScan is so popular, and worth every penny of the $50 license cost. This is yet another thread that plainly illustrates that.

 

[garys]

I've never found it particularly easy to do anything in Sentinal. It's easy to do in ARC536 and as others have noted it works in Pro Scan as well.

I use Sentinel for profile changes, but do all Favorite List, System, and Department editing in ARC536.