Spanish heard on 144.355

[Secret_Squirrel]

I can hear some people speaking Spanish on 144.355 in Bixby, OK. They are coming in loud and clear here. I was thinking it might be some illegal transmissions but lo-and behold I just heard two callsigns. There were said too fast and in a heavy spanish accent. Anyway, maybe someone else out there in listening land knows something about this.

ETA: My friend put his callsign out there and KB6PCA came back to him. Apparently it was some sort of internet connection to Chile. I don't speak Spanish so I don't know what else they are saying but they are chattering away here in Spanish.

I thought all transmissions were supposed to be in English. I also though that 144.355 wasn't supposed to be used for voice purposes. However, I may be mistaken.

 

[car2back]

So it was some sort of Echolink thing? is 144.355 a repeater around here? Sounds interesting!

 

[Secret_Squirrel]

That's what I gathered. Here is the website belonging to the ham that I heard.

You're probably going to need a translator though:

http://www.conferenciasur.com/

 

[car2back]

Here you go

Dear friends and ham radio colleagues the power is reason for contentment to have obtained the authorization of the SOUTH conference hall. The SUR After technical transactions with the administrators of the Echolink program. Being that this work without aims of profit and thought about that this Website a complement of the SOUTH conference hall, the SUR in where each one of the radius club's guests throughout Chile to be united to publish their bulletins and activities, which can be transmitted to the air for Chile and the world. The amount of Chilean radio hams is numerous who we were abroad which we will delight to listen and to learn of these bulletins. It is my desire of which the SOUTH conference hall * * and this Webpage it is identified like property of all the Chilean radio hams without concerning the license privilege that you have, so that all are welcome to contribute with ideas for the improvement of this page. Once again Welcome USA and 73's from Oklahoma.

 

[Secret_Squirrel]

I didn't say that "I" would need the page translated sir. I said YOU would.

 

[car2back]

I didn't say that "I" would need the page translated Phil. I said YOU would.

I see, tu entiende espanol entonces?

 

[N1508J]

Aqui, no habla ingles

I see, tu entiende espanol entonces?

Perdon, pero nosotros no habla ingles en los estados unitos!

 

[Secret_Squirrel]

Perdon, pero nosotros no habla ingles en los estados unitos!

Yes, that's true but I don't want the original intent of my thread destroyed so enough of the Spanish games...please.

 

[car2back]

lol.

So it sounds like SS has stumbled across an echolink repeater that allows Chilean (and American) hams in Oklahoma to communicate with people back in Chile. Cool!

 

[mikepdx]

I thought all transmissions were supposed to be in English. I also though that 144.355 wasn't supposed to be used for voice purposes. However, I may be mistaken.

Nope. You can speak any language you so desire,
however you must ID in English (if you're subject to FCC rules).

144.300–144.500 MHz is reserved for satellite operations by
gentlemens agreement (a band plan), it's not an FCC rule.
The FCC Rules say that any mode (FM, AM, SSB, CW, etc.) can be used on the band from 144.100-148.000 MHz

Phone (voice) in the 2M band is only prohibited by FCC rules from 144.000–144.100 MHz

car2back is right. According to http://www.conferenciasur.com/ , what you are hearing is an Echolink node http://echolink.org/
(hablo Español)

 

[Medic32]

you know at first i thought the guys with the lawn mowing buisness got 2 ways.... but thats pretty cool you can set up long distance radio links like that. i figured with the technology we have available everything would be video confrence calls.

hams are still the primary source of communcations for country's like that are they not?

 

[plaws]

Good Amateur Practice

144.300–144.500 MHz is reserved for satellite operations by
gentlemens agreement (a band plan), it's not an FCC rule.
The FCC Rules say that any mode (FM, AM, SSB, CW, etc.) can be used on the band from 144.100-148.000 MHz

Yes.

But.

The FCC has stated repeatedly that adhering to bandplans is considered to be Good Amateur Practice. And Good Amateur Practice is covered in 97.101:

"(a) In all respects not specifically covered by FCC Rules each amateur station must be operated in accordance with good engineering and good amateur practice."

So no, they really shouldn't be operating there.

I don't play with IRLP/Echolink/etc so I'm not up on the specific rules, but it seems to me that a repeater like that, even if one end isn't radio, still needs to be coordinated through the local coordination body, in this case ORSI.

Like I said, though, I haven't looked at the regs for that at all.

 

[nd5y]

Repeaters are only allowed between 144.5-145.5 and 146.0-148.0 on 2 meters. If they are really running a repeater that would be illegal.
If they are running a simplex FM link, that would be legal but probably not considered good amateur practice to operate FM below 144.5.
I suspect if ORSI is like the other coordinators they probably don't coordinate a simplex VoIP nodes.

 

[K5MAR]

I suspect if ORSI is like the other coordinators they probably don't coordinate a simplex VoIP nodes.

That's correct. I'm a member of ORSI and we simply do not have the necessary resources to do that. Just keeping up with the 2m and 70cm repeaters is more work than there are willing volunteers to handle. Without several dedicated members the job wouldn't get done at all. Everybody wants to ***** but nobody is willing to do the work.

There are actually several other nodes doing things similar to that but it isn't illegal, just bad practice. Not worth the FCC's time.

Mark - K5MAR

 

[Secret_Squirrel]

That's correct. I'm a member of ORSI and we simply do not have the necessary resources to do that. Just keeping up with the 2m and 70cm repeaters is more work than there are willing volunteers to handle. Without several dedicated members the job wouldn't get done at all. Everybody wants to ***** but nobody is willing to do the work.

There are actually several other nodes doing things similar to that but it isn't illegal, just bad practice. Not worth the FCC's time.

Mark - K5MAR

Here's your pat on the back Mark for volunteering.

Now, when's the last time ORSI put some messages out asking for assistance? I don't buy that nobody is willing to do the work baloney.

 

[K5MAR]

Not on that end of things, but membership is open to all licensed operators. The meetings are twice a year, and usually held here in Stillwater, on a Saturday around 11:30 AM at the Sirloin Stockade. I'll post the next meeting when I hear.

I believe meeting notices are sent to all coordinated repeater owners and trustees, as well as those like me who are dues-paying members. Generally about 10-15 people show up.

Mark

 

[spiritwolfpr]

Hello Friends:
I started been a Radio Amateur in Florida and latter moved back to Puerto Rico.
We used spanish in Florida and Puerto Rico the only thing is that you need to say your
call sign in english.

I hope this helps

 

[plaws]

Not on that end of things, but membership is open to all licensed operators. The meetings are twice a year, and usually held here in Stillwater, on a Saturday around 11:30 AM at the Sirloin Stockade. I'll post the next meeting when I hear.

I believe meeting notices are sent to all coordinated repeater owners and trustees, as well as those like me who are dues-paying members. Generally about 10-15 people show up.

Mark

Somewhat to my surprise I'm now heavily involved in the W5NOR repeaters (the controller for the new machine is on my bench at home now) so I may actually show up.

 

[plaws]

Perspective on IRLP, et al, and how it fits the rules.

Like I said, though, I haven't looked at the regs for that at all.

OK, I looked a little and found a great discussion of the issue.

 

[gmopena]

vhf 144.350 Spanish

I my name is Guillermo ( Bill ) KB6PCA this note is to clear some confutions that some of you have regarding to the spanish Speaker's that you hear in the 144.350 mhz.

1- Is just a frecuency in simplex and not a repeater
2- my conections are: Slave vhf mobil to a Interface and to my computer
3- Power from the slave vhf most the time 10W (output) But 50W(output)when I'm mobil
4- In the Internet in the program Echolink I'm the server of the Conference Room named
*SUR*(South) becouse I'm from Chile(Chile is in the South) living in USA for the
last 28 years, 25 in California and the last 3 in Oklahoma.
6- To make this connection possible I'm running another program conected to a echolink.
7- Most the stations that you are going to hear are in Chile and becouse they dont speak
english all the call signs identifications are in spanish
8- My intentions are to connect the all country(Chile) in vhf and is working real good.
9- I dont have any problem to moove to another frecuency if I need to
10- the tone that you hear in the frecuency make you belive that is a repeater but is not, I
put that tone in the program to confirm that I'm activating the system when I'm mobil
and to make the rest of the ham radios in Chile understand when is the time to talk
due to the many stations conected.
11- Chilean Ham radio's all around the wiold are conecting to this program.

all ham radios in Oklahoma are welcome to participate of the QSO,if you dont speak
spanish this can be you chance to learn.

Any questions feel free to call me in the air I do speak English, 73's to all

(sorry for any error that can be in my writing)