Sticky Thread For MilAir IV

[Mark]

I don't know who uses that callsign at Pax. And, yes, the FFAB123 is just gibberish. I was thinking at first it was a MD-ArNG helo but apparently not. Something out of Pax apparently..

Taking a cue from Hop checked Airnav and looks like H60P-Pavehawk? chopper
Sikorsky callsign is "PANAIR".
FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > Panair #831
Note your matched log Aug 20.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

And the afternoon piece of the SBS log (busier day today than any recently):

AE0655 58-0084 ------- 19:23:19.375 KC-135R ANG/PA/171ARW
AE067A 00-1934 ------- 19:23:15.312 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE07E7 95-0104 ------- 19:09:20.234 C-17A 437thAW
AE20C5 07-7184 RCH770 18:48:46.218 C-17a ---
AE20C5 07-7184 ------- 18:47:23.406 C-17a ---
AE03E2 164995 ------- 18:37:39.625 C-130T VR-53/AX
AE0254 98-1356 CRAB56 18:27:16.640 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0254 98-1356 ------- 18:27:07.500 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE083F ------- ------- 18:26:44.203 KC-135E AMARC/
AE0803 98-0057 ------- 18:19:07.718 C-17A 62ndAW
AE0159 57-1512 DECEE32 17:59:59.843 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
AE0159 57-1512 ------- 17:59:48.218 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
AE067A 00-1934 ------- 17:58:15.640 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE067A 00-1934 BATON54 17:58:15.640 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE1DBB ------ ------- 17:56:49.515 ------ ---
AE03F4 84-0145 ------- 17:51:33.203 C-12T OSACOM/PATDet7DEArNG
AE1479 166767 USMC767 17:49:16.265 UC-35D VMR-2
A09ADE N138WA WOA8507 17:43:01.203 DC-10 WorldAirways
A09ADE N138WA ------- 17:42:24.812 DC-10 WorldAirways
AE1479 166767 ------- 17:42:18.718 UC-35D VMR-2
AE0173 84-0118 JOSA108 17:37:15.203 C-21A 458thAS
AE0173 84-0118 ------- 17:36:56.203 C-21A 458thAS
AE0256 98-1358 CRAB58 17:36:20.609 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0256 98-1358 ------- 17:36:18.375 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
A2A692 N270AX @@@@@@@@ 17:34:43.718 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
ADFEEE 160050 CNV9697 17:31:50.453 C-9B VR-52
A2A692 N270AX OAE781 17:28:14.531 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
ADFEEE 160050 ------- 17:27:58.203 C-9B VR-52
A2A692 N270AX @@@@@@@@ 17:27:49.750 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
ADFEEB 160047 LOBO2 17:22:29.218 C-9B VMR-1
ADFEEB 160047 ------- 17:22:16.218 C-9B VMR-1
ADFED6 85-1268 ------- 17:19:47.531 C-12T OSACOM/VA RFC
AE1458 06-6154 RCH6154 17:17:55.218 C-17A 60thAMW
AE1458 06-6154 ------- 17:16:31.703 C-17A 60thAMW
AE01BD 84-0131 JOSA821 17:09:33.468 C-21A 457thAS
AE138D 158200 ------- 17:08:02.218 T-38C ntps
AE01BD 84-0131 ------- 17:02:24.468 C-21A 457thAS
AE182B xxxx831 ------- 17:01:38.203 H-60P VSX-1 PaxRiver
A2A692 N270AX OAE781 17:01:38.250 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
A2A692 N270AX ------- 17:01:19.671 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
AE0188 84-0094 JOSA769 16:55:25.203 C-21A 457thAS
AE0188 84-0094 ------- 16:54:13.515 C-21A 457thAS
AE18F9 79-0118 5 16:46:36.234 OA-10A 706thFS
AE18F9 79-0118 ------- 16:46:33.843 OA-10A 706thFS
AE067A 00-1934 ------- 16:43:45.453 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE067A 00-1934 BATON54 16:43:45.656 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE0256 98-1358 CRAB10 16:43:13.765 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0256 98-1358 ------- 16:42:04.218 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
ADFD7B 91-0511 PAT463 16:36:32.796 C-26B OSACOM/Det23/MA-ArNG
A97B00 N71PG N71PG 16:35:17.203 LJ-36A PhoenixAirGroup
ADFD7B 91-0511 ------- 16:32:09.203 C-26B OSACOM/Det23/MA-ArNG
A97B00 N71PG ------- 16:27:16.843 LJ-36A PhoenixAirGroup
ADFEEB 160047 LOBO2 16:23:23.656 C-9B VMR-1
AE1F44 07-2053 ------- 16:21:08.203 UH-72A ---
AE0166 86-0201 S5075 16:20:17.593 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
ADFEEB 160047 ------- 16:18:04.546 C-9B VMR-1
AE06CD 163613 @@@@@@@@ 16:17:42.203 UC-12B Atlanta
AE06CD 163613 ------- 16:15:25.703 UC-12B Atlanta
AE0406 99-0402 0000 16:09:59.687 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
AE0406 99-0402 ------- 16:08:29.203 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
AE0166 86-0201 ------- 16:04:19.203 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
AE144A 05-5140 RCH5140 16:02:59.203 C-17A 729thAS/AFRC
AE144A 05-5140 ------- 16:00:49.203 C-17A 729thAS/AFRC
AE06CF 161309 ------- 15:58:11.203 UC-12B Washington
AE013E 63-7981 ------- 15:57:41.734 KC-135R ANG/IL/108ARS
AE18EE 79-0104 ------- 15:49:09.453 A-10A 104thFS
AE016A 86-0206 ------- 15:45:06.718 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
AE1461 06-6163 RCH6163 15:43:48.312 C-17A 21stAS/60thAMW
AE1461 06-6163 ------- 15:38:52.546 C-17A 21stAS/60thAMW
AE138D 158200 ------- 15:33:29.578 T-38C ntps
AE138E 67-4943 @@@@@@@@ 15:24:37.593 T-38C ntps
E47EF6 N637TW RCH728 15:16:14.406 B767-33AER Ryan Intl Airlines
E47EF6 N637TW ------- 15:13:41.453 B767-33AER Ryan Intl Airlines
ADFED6 85-1268 ------- 15:08:39.203 C-12T OSACOM/VA RFC
AAFF73 ------- ------- 15:07:18.218 C-130T VR-53/AX
AE08B5 165961 @@@@@@@@ 15:05:17.218 T-6A ntps
AE138E 67-4943 ------- 15:00:29.234 T-38C ntps
AE08B5 165961 ------- 15:00:28.859 T-6A ntps
AE1351 163395 16339500 14:59:51.687 EA-6B VAQ-209
AE1351 163395 ------- 14:58:06.218 EA-6B VAQ-209
AE0945 01-0040 VENUS30 14:55:37.203 C-40B 76thAS
AE0945 01-0040 ------- 14:54:03.734 C-40B 76thAS
AE0167 86-0202 AVIONICS 14:52:43.500 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
AE08B3 165959 ------- 14:52:05.718 T-6A ntps
AE0167 86-0202 -------- 14:48:19.843 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
AE1390 61-0925 ------- 14:46:13.203 T-38C ntps
AE1392 158198 ------- 14:45:30.843 T-38C ntps
AE08B4 165960 ------- 14:42:24.203 T-6A ntps
AE07FA 97-0048 RCH7048 14:41:49.640 C-17A 437thAW
AE07FA 97-0048 ------- 14:41:46.593 C-17A 437thAW
ACB947 N919NA ------- 14:35:37.718 T-38 NASA
AE067A 00-1934 BATON20 14:26:29.203 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE067A 00-1934 ------- 14:25:29.562 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE1393 68-8158 ------- 14:23:09.812 T-38C ntps
AE02F2 90-1057 HUSKEY56 14:16:25.203 C-130H ANG/DE/142AS
AE1DD6 ------ ------- 14:15:00.218 ------ ---
AE02FF 78-0809 PITT 09 14:13:31.718 C-130H AFRC/910AW/757AS
AA90A0 N780BA ------- 14:13:26.640 B-747-409 Evergreen
AE02F2 90-1057 ------- 14:12:18.203 C-130H ANG/DE/142AS
AE02FF 78-0809 ------- 14:12:12.500 C-130H AFRC/910AW/757AS
AE06C5 161206 ------- 14:11:45.687 UC-12B Washington
AE0256 98-1358 CRAB10 14:04:40.203 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0255 98-1357 CRAB57 14:04:28.765 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0255 98-1357 ------- 14:04:26.531 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0256 98-1358 ------- 14:04:15.203 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0406 99-0402 00000000 14:03:50.203 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
AE0449 02-4452 ------- 14:00:08.187 C-32B 227thSOF/NJ-ANG

 

[adrian65]

Checking old logs Alan you had back on Aug 20 with callsign.
AE1DBB ------ FFAB123 16:22:17.046
Odd Army callsign.. test bird or just random mode jibberish.
Mark

FWIW i have AE1DD0 in my d/b also having had FFAB123 in the c/s box
undoubtedly todays AE1DBB and AE1DD6 were connected.

 

[mdmonitor]

Hey...even F/A-18s have to land. Actually, Mark, I'm not sure how that hex got to be an F/A-18 other than others are in that same hex range. Excellent catch on the 831 though heading into Phillps. I wonder if Ron has that chopper in his database? Ron?

Tin,
Mark,

I don't have 831 in my list---maybe from out of state PA or DE?

Here's what I have for knowns at Weide AAF at Aberdeen:

20452- OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AAF
(20)453- OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AAF
20732- OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AAF
20734- OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AAF
(20)736-OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AAF
21167- prob UH-60
(21)172- unk
21268- prob )UH-1/UH-60)
21276 (UH-1/UH-60)
21413(UH-1/UH-60)
21927- OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AAF
21929-OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland Ar.NG; Weide AAF
22425-
(22)426-UH-60
22473 (UH-1/UH-60)
22537- UH-1/UH-60
23006
23129- UH-1/UH-60
23453- UH-60
23662-UH-60
23744- UH-60
23858- UH-60
23867-UH-60
24402-UH-60A
24408- UH-60
24411- UH-60
24525-UH-60
24746-prob UH-60
26082 UH-60A 104th MedCo MD ArNG Weide AAF
26084- UH-60A 104th MedCo MD ArNG Weide AAF
26162- UH-60A 104th MedCo MD ArNG Weide AAF
26847- UH-60A 104th MedCo MD ArNG Weide AAF

 

[mdmonitor]

I don't know who uses that callsign at Pax. And, yes, the FFAB123 is just gibberish. I was thinking at first it was a MD-ArNG helo but apparently not. Something out of Pax apparently.

Travis, I've got AE0046 as a T-38C with possible tail 67-14851. It was one of two T-38s that went into McChord but the guy logging wasn't sure which of the two T-38s it was.
AE083F was last noted being used by a KC-135E heading to AMARC 17 July. It came in from the west today. Guess it didn't like the desert weather.

Guys,

Pioneer is callsign used by the helos in VSX-1 at PAX.

 

[TinEar]

Guys,

Pioneer is callsign used by the helos in VSX-1 at PAX.

Thanks Ron. That callsign sounded familiar to me but I just couldn't remember who it belonged to and it isn't in any of the saved callsign lists I have nor on the many freq lists I've got for Pax from various people over the years. Anyway, that gives us almost a full ID for it now.

 

[JohnFB]

Getting a lot of activity on AR631 295.8 (AAR track over NH and VT). Considering that a good portion of the tankers supporting the Sunfish CAP have been from NH-ANG, it's possible the activity on AR631 is related.

Possibly you heard PACK 11 working with RODD 99 who began a little after 1000L.

 

[JohnFB]

1955
here comes Zombi22 58-0084 KC-135T Pa/ANG on the screen
Harass43 sending 44 to do a boom check as soon as 22 arrives,

1957
Zombi21 on 128.75 repating back her clearance......long clearance, no pen, thought i could remember it, no chance.......HTM, CAM, on and on and on.............back to Scott Illinois i guess.

I like it when the tankers come from outside of New England ..... I can actually hear them

ZOMBIE 22 was doing radio chks on 228.900 and 364.200 with HUNTRESS before finally settling on 260.900.

ZOMBIE 21 gave her destination as BLV [Scott AFB] to ATC.

 

[Mark]

Also just for info a "Invader Jack" LJ-36 working out of Wiliamsburg and Pax River
this week.
Haven't logged a tail yet,maybe you guys down South can catch him on box.
FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > Flight International, Inc. #210

Mark

 

[Junior08]

360.15, talking to one of the Aircraft, mentioning the noise over MVY again, to be aware of it.

 

[Junior08]

ZBW 321.3, HARRASS 42, 43, and 44 (?) orbiting in the block?

 

[TinEar]

Also just for info a "Invader Jack" LJ-36 working out of Wiliamsburg and Pax River
this week.
Haven't logged a tail yet,maybe you guys down South can catch him on box.
FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > Flight International, Inc. #210

Mark

Mark, on my log above at 1627, I have an LJ-36 belonging to Phoenix Air Group.

 

[Mark]

Mark, on my log above at 1627, I have an LJ-36 belonging to Phoenix Air Group.

I had N71PG last at 1645 local today (A97B00)
Have a feeling that wasn't the IJ but cool looking jet.

Mark

 

[freqhopping]

Also just for info a "Invader Jack" LJ-36 working out of Wiliamsburg and Pax River
this week.
Haven't logged a tail yet,maybe you guys down South can catch him on box.
FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > Flight International, Inc. #210

Mark

Looking at it's flight history I certainly should have logged it midday on Monday. I couldn't find anything in my log that would match that time and altitude.



Anyone know the reg. or owner of a Lockheed JetStar that landed at Dulles this morning around 0800? Didn't show in my RB log.

 

[Junior08]

228.175 now becoming active. Sounds like air/air comms.

 

[masswxnet]

228.175 now becoming active. Sounds like air/air comms.

I have 228.175 as secondary A/A for the Langley F-16s. Confirmed.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: PIONEER 831

Guys,

A little late getting onto the Thread here as we've been treated all evening to the sight of a nice lineup of young punks busted by the FCPD right in front of the house. Evidently running from some kind of "kiddie" gang fight.

Just a wild guess but I'll throw out MH-60S c/n 701831 or 702831. Good luck getting a c/n to BuNo tieup (167831??) at this point!

Tony

Guys,

Pioneer is callsign used by the helos in VSX-1 at PAX.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: ENERGY 85

Had him up w/ZDC-Linden 133.550 @ 1859Z this afternoon descending to FL210.

My guess: Be200 N185XP.

EDIT: think this is a pretty good guess - registered North Las Vegas and the callsign has been reported from the KLSV area before.

http://www.lazygranch.com/images/misc/n185xp.jpg

Tony

ENERGY-85 at 7k over AML. 124.2 No mode-s on this one.
.

 

[TinEar]

0006: BLACKJACK 3 (HH-65 USCG) working w/HUNTRESS chasing down a TOI to start the latest version of the Falcon Virgo exercise...139.6
I believe HUNTRESS is transmitting from an antenna at BWI for this part of the exercise. He's extremely loud and clear - same signal strength as the other BWI transmitters. BLACKJACK 3 is fairly weak but completely readable from here.
I believe the target is CAP aircraft N636CP, C-182...currently flying at 2400 feet (per Mode-S but HUNTRESS calls it 2500 feet).
0013: BLACKJACK 3 has the target...describes it as high wing, single engine and will get the tail....however, HUNTRESS tells him the command is to "bug out" so BLACKJACK 3 breaks off the target...139.7
I've also got a C-40C, 02-0201 from the 201st AS at Andrews displaying BOXER 42 for a callsign. This might be part of the exercise too since they've used that aircraft in the past. He should be a target for F-16s though. It's flying at 12,000 feet.
0018: I'm no longer thinking the C-40 is part of this. He's with ZDC-Woodstown on 125.45 and is climbing to 16,000 feet and still going up....at FL 210 by 0021.
0019: HUNTRESS tells BLACKJACK to terminate and just continue to orbit in the area...a couple of minutes later tells BJ3 or orbit 200 for 10 miles...139.7
0027: HUNTRESS did a radio check with BLACKJACK 3 - both heard each other but HUNTRESS has changed antennas and was suddenly weak from here...139.7
0033: HUNTRESS transmitting but I can no longer understand him...just too weak....so is BLACKJACK 3 at this point since HUNTRESS moved him....139.7
0035: BOXER 42 still heading out...he's now at FL 350 where he's stopped the climb.
0036: HUNTRESS giving BLACKJACK 3 a new TOI to chase...signal is excellent again but there's a carrier on the freq blocking comms...139.7
I wonder if the carrier is being deliberately transmitted as part of the exercise?
0038: HUNTRESS transmitting in the blind since he can't get the helo...carrier stops, he gives the BRA of the target again and the carrier begins again....139.7
0039: HUNTRESS calls BLACKJACK 3 on backup freq since he can't get him on 139.7...260.9 (He's actually trying on both freqs)
0040: HUNTRESS has BJ3 switch to backup freq, he does and gets BRA to TOI...260.9 (HUNTRESS perfectly readable on new freq but not as strong as on the VHF...he's continuing to vector the helo to the target.)
0042: HUNTRESS tells BJ3 his mission is to get the tail number...260.9
0044: BJ 3 apparently gives the tail number (I can not hear BJ3 now) and HUNTRESS reads it back as N636CP (what a coincidence)...260.9
0045: BJ 3 back in radio range for me and repeats tail N636CP...260.9
0047: HUNTRESS tells BLACKJACK 3 to bug out south...then gives him 130 (course/speed?)...260.9

I don't know how many times they'll do this using the helo but it's getting old already. If the fighters came up it would be more interesting - and they may scramble later - but I've had enough and think it's time to crash so call this the end of the log.

**********************************************************
Here's the last piece of the SBS log for 26 August:
AE0580 87-0035 ------- 23:57:04.046 C-5B 436thAW
ADFEBE 96-0108 D6C9A564 23:47:46.062 UC-35a1 PRArNG
ADFEBE 96-0108 ------- 23:47:45.250 UC-35a1 PRArNG
A4C3E8 N406LC ------- 23:00:59.765 C-130 LyndenAirCargo
AE0173 84-0118 ------- 22:37:08.062 C-21A 458thAS
A2A692 N270AX ------- 22:36:22.765 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
AE0386 59-1468 ------- 22:11:55.187 KC-135R ANG/PA/171ARW
ADFEBE 96-0108 ------- 22:02:10.781 UC-35a1 PRArNG
A09727 N137WA WOA8685 21:55:22.312 DC-10 WorldAirways
A09727 N137WA ------- 21:55:20.781 DC-10 WorldAirways
AE119C 03-3119 RCH3119 21:53:11.296 C-17A 172ndAW/MSANG
AE119C 03-3119 ------- 21:50:36.781 C-17A 172ndAW/MSANG
A9A3A2 N720AX ------- 21:31:00.218 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
AE119B 03-3118 RCH3118 21:27:54.156 C-17A 172ndAW/MSANG
A2A692 N270AX ------- 21:27:35.062 DC-10 OmniAirInternational
AE119B 03-3118 ------- 21:23:59.781 C-17A 172ndAW/MSANG
AE0159 57-1512 ------- 21:22:00.312 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
AE0159 57-1512 DECEE32 21:22:00.781 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
AE067A 00-1934 ------- 21:18:43.781 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE067A 00-1934 BATON54 21:18:43.781 EC-130J ANG/PA/193SOW/193SOS
AE0256 98-1358 CRAB58 21:16:21.296 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE0256 98-1358 ------- 21:15:55.093 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
AE18EE 79-0104 ------- 20:55:46.265 A-10A 104thFS
AE08B4 165960 ------- 20:51:58.781 T-6A ntps
AE0580 87-0035 ------- 20:41:23.796 C-5B 436thAW
ADFEF0 161266 JS266 20:32:02.359 C-9B VR-46
ADFEF0 161266 ------- 20:30:42.953 C-9B VR-46
ADFEE7 159118 CNV9536 20:27:53.140 C-9B VR-56
ADFEE7 159118 ------- 20:27:25.921 C-9B VR-56
AE054E 70-0457 ------- 20:17:02.734 C-5A 445thAW
AE080B 99-0165 ------- 20:15:08.625 C-17A 62ndAW
AE080B 99-0165 RCH9165 20:15:08.625 C-17A 62ndAW
AE0159 57-1512 ------- 20:12:21.203 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
AE0159 57-1512 DECEE32 20:12:21.203 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS


Ref below: Aaron, yes, 260.9 is the HUNTRESS freq for your CAP

 

[masswxnet]

Quick question, because I seem to have something labeled incorrectly.

260.9 is a Huntress freq right? Or am I missing something and have this wrong because some people think it is "Boston CAP Primary."


If they're talking about Civil Air Patrol then I can see that but, if they are talking about the Martha's Vineyard CAP then I have it right I believe.

(BTW, I got the label from Mass.Military - Scan New England Wiki)