Sumter County...two separate systems? Moto for fire, Harris for LEO

[ElroyJetson]

I was in Sumter County today, Memorial Day observance at Bushnell National Cemetery. Of course I was paying attention to what radios/systems are in use,
and by whom. And asked a few questions.

The Deputies were carrying Harris Xl-185 portables.

The fire/rescue personnel were carrying Motorola APX radios.

They claim they have their own separate systems and don't even have easy interoperability between police/sheriff and fire/rescue.

The database only states that Sumter has a P25 Phase 1 system, and a short list of talkgroups both fire/rescue and sheriff.

So what's the real deal here? It seems unlikely that they'd have two separate P25 systems, one for Sheriff and the other for Fire/Rescue.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

They could be on same system with mixed vendor P25 radios. It took only 25 years to get to that point with P25 standards/

 

[CommsTruck]

Sumter had APX model 1.5's for deputies but has recently switched to APX Next.

They have 1 system but are treated like 2. fire has no LE in the radios and vice versa

 

[ElroyJetson]

I spoke to two deputies who had Harris XL-185Ps in their vests. I'd know those radios, I have one.

 

[trooper890]

I was in Sumter County today, Memorial Day observance at Bushnell National Cemetery. Of course I was paying attention to what radios/systems are in use,
and by whom. And asked a few questions.

The Deputies were carrying Harris Xl-185 portables.

The fire/rescue personnel were carrying Motorola APX radios.

They claim they have their own separate systems and don't even have easy interoperability between police/sheriff and fire/rescue.

The database only states that Sumter has a P25 Phase 1 system, and a short list of talkgroups both fire/rescue and sheriff.

So what's the real deal here? It seems unlikely that they'd have two separate P25 systems, one for Sheriff and the other for Fire/Rescue.

The system is phase II now, and there aren’t two systems. Users tend to create their own reality.

Sumter SO utilizes APX series like fire does.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Those two officers were definitely not carrying APX's.

 

[trooper890]

Keep in mind that particular location is real close to other jurisdictions, and there are a lot of SLERS partner agencies…

 

[junior71]

Correct me if I’m wrong APX radios will work on a Harris system and XL’s will work on a Motorola system 😉

 

[ElroyJetson]

If all concerned are fully P25 compliant, yes.

 

[Gilly1980]

I'm willing to bet that the Harris radios belonged to the National Cemetery (I did not see the Cemetery's frequencies listed in the Sumter County database). SCSO are all issued APX Next radios and do not use anything else.

As to the comment about fire radios not having LE channels and vice versa, I can tell you that the Sheriff's Office radios have all the FD channels programmed and can communicate on them.

 

[n3obl]

A lot of places will not put law channels in non law radios.

 

[kc8rak]

Is fire completely encrypted? My dad lives in the villages. I know LE is. Thanks

 

[zlandmedia]

Is fire completely encrypted? My dad lives in the villages. I know LE is. Thanks

According to the database, fire is encrypted. Only thing that's reported unencrypted is the helicopter, and EMS-Hospital has partial encryption.

Sumter County Public Safety System Trunking System, Bushnell, Florida

Sumter County Public Safety System Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[trooper890]

Is fire completely encrypted? My dad lives in the villages. I know LE is. Thanks

The entire system is except occasional mutual aid traffic and ones described above.