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mmckenna

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Not currently, but we've been considering their stuff at work. Our county is using Tait repeaters.

I spent some time talking with them at APCO last week. They have some good products that are well respected. Nice radios, nice repeaters.
 

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While working for Zetron, part of the JVC/Kenwood Group, there was a push to become more affiliated with Tait, in an attempt to take on Motorola Solutions Inc. During that time, Moses Lake, Washington decided to switch from Motorola radios and infrastructure to Tait with great results at a much lower cost. I was responsible for mutual aid between Motorola APX4000 users and those working in Grant County that needed to be on the Tait system for interoperability. Great system and radio gear, but looks odd to those used to Motorola. Aside from some difference in Talk Permit tones and signaling, Tait radios worked well. I wonder how that system is holding up, has been a few years.
 

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I to had a good talk with the guys from Tait at APCO last week. They've built a pretty good reputation in Louisiana on the LWIN (which is a Motorola) P25 system. Last I heard, roughly 25% of the subscribers on the system were Tait. They are currently working their way into one of the regional Motorola systems here in Texas as a Mother /\/\ alternative and they seem to be much more adept at making sure their radios function on Astro 25 systems compared to Kenwood/EF Johnson who doesn't have the best reputation with Astro 25. I've never heard a bad thing regarding their DMR product and they were one of the first vendors to offer a Tier III solution...also one of the only 800 MHz DMR solutions. Their infrastructure is well built and from a thermodynamics point of view, well engineered and they stick to standards. So AIS for the DMR inter system gateway, ISSI for P25, CSSI for consoles on P25, DFSI for infastructure (so you can build vendor agnostic P25 trunking systems with them).

They've got some product big announcements coming up at either IWCE 2021 (in less than a month) or IWCE 2022 and now that their Harris partner ship is done, I think it opens them back up for a lot more use.

@W9WSS Codan has been around for a long time and is one of the OG's P25 group manufacturers. Their former name was Daniels Electronics which is what most know them by. Their specialty, is low power infrastructure (think mountain top, off grid trunking sites).
 

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And Codan recently bought Zetron. Yes, Kenwood/EF Johnson have many issues with their current line of products. One being that they hired too many Microsoft transplants, that are used to fielding a product with broken software code. Another is the push to sell product, you may have experienced this at IWCE on display, that can be software upgraded for P25 capability. This allows for grant money for P25 capable products, but once you try to purchase the software, and load that into a radio, it may not activate properly, or require some other patch to function.

Tait has been great, and seems to be making inroads on the: reliability, price, and compatibility in the P25 world for sure. Harris has worked for the military, but has had some issues in the private sector, and as you mentioned, Tait no longer being held back by Harris should be a positive overall.
 

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I've used them in the past for about four years or so and they aren't great, they are good, look at them online to see what is working pretty helpful.
 

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We have been using the Tait TM9155's , TP9100's, and TP9400's for several years and had no issue.... we had previously all Motorola's but had very poor customer support from the vendor... the Tait's have shown to hold up quite well, actually better than the Motorola's so far.
 

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Oh really?

Yeah, I think it was earlier this year.

Last year we were working with Harris on designing a system. They were quoting us with TB-9400's. Suddenly it was the new Harris Mastr and they wouldn't support the Tait machines any more.
 

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Here in Oklahoma all the Highway Patrol 700Mhz conventional repeaters are Tait and they sound great actually better then the Motorola by far........
 
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