OP25 Talk Group Timeout

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Either I am overlooking something or it doesn't exist. I am using osmocom version right now. Is there a way set a pause before the op25 starts scanning again? For example my P25RX it is called "Talk Group Timeout". In other words it waits a short period of time on the talkgroup before resuming the scanning. I can't seem to be able to find a value that does that. If not, does boatbod's version have something like that?
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In the boatbod version there is a 2 sec hold timer which causes the call processing to remain on the same tgid at the end of a call in case there is follow-up traffic. There are exceptions for call pre-emption (higher priority traffic) but basically the intent is to try to follow a conversation without jumping around too much.

Sorry, I can't answer if this is current Osmocom functionality since the codebases have diverged considerably.
 

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Either I am overlooking something or it doesn't exist. I am using osmocom version right now. Is there a way set a pause before the op25 starts scanning again? For example my P25RX it is called "Talk Group Timeout". In other words it waits a short period of time on the talkgroup before resuming the scanning. I can't seem to be able to find a value that does that. If not, does boatbod's version have something like that?
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Talk group timeout on the P25RX does more than a delay. It follows the active talk group for the timeout period. When in scanning mode, it prevents scanning from resuming for the timeout period as well.
 

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CanesFan95 - thank you for that. I can see what it is saying. It was worth just getting this document too. Very cool and thank you for the help!!

Boatbod thanks for the insight on the P25RX as well!

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Talk group timeout on the P25RX does more than a delay. It follows the active talk group for the timeout period. When in scanning mode, it prevents scanning from resuming for the timeout period as well.
Just to be clear. The P25RX does not contain any OP25 trunking code or logic related to TG timeouts. I was merely pointing out that the way the P25RX works has nothing to do with OP25.
 

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Talk group timeout on the P25RX does more than a delay. It follows the active talk group for the timeout period. When in scanning mode, it prevents scanning from resuming for the timeout period as well.
That's exactly what op25 does too.
 

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Just to be clear. The P25RX does not contain any OP25 trunking code or logic related to TG timeouts. I was merely pointing out that the way the P25RX works has nothing to do with OP25. I never even heard of OP25 until well after the P25RX was being sold.
Unless you've been living under a rock I really suspect the credibility of that statement. OP25 has been around for 10+ years or longer with a very active presence here on RR. I'm sure you would have done your homework prior to making P25RX which has been on the market for perhaps 2 years according to your forum join date. I'm also equally sure you spent a good deal of time perusing op25, dsd and any other relevant sdr sources to see what could be borrowed or repurposed. Everyone does that, and as long as the proper attributions are kept in the source code and the terms of the open source licensing are followed all is cool.
 

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Unless you've been living under a rock I really suspect the credibility of that statement.
You sure seem to make a lot of incorrect assumptions. I did eventually port some of the P2 decoder from OP25 in order to add P2 support that most people were requiring. I released the source code for that. All C code now. No more C++ + Python. No need for Java, Linux or bloated Python libraries. I might have been living under a rock back then, but I've seen quite a few features of the P25RX end up becoming new features in OP25 since then. If it was an inspiration, I think that is great.
 

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You sure seem to make a lot of incorrect assumptions. I did eventually port some of the P2 decoder from OP25 in order to add P2 support that most people were requiring. I released the source code for that. All C code now. No more C++, Python. No need for Java, Linux or bloated Python libraries. I might have been living under a rock back then, but I've seen quite a few features of the P25RX end up becoming new features in OP25 since then. If it was an inspiration, I think that is great.
I've personally never seen the P25RX sources or even a feature list. If they are freely available I'll take a look around some time.
 
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