Toronto Police Airplane

[exkalibur]

Okay, so Miller wouldn't let the City have a helicopter, but he let them have a fixed-wing aircraft?

I've heard an airplane used by MSS/Gangs & Guns for the better part of a year, but I had always figured it was a rental... I guess not.

2 Dyas Road is where the MSS base is. Very interesting.

Aircraft Information

Mark: C-FZRR
Common Name: Cessna Model Name: 206H
Serial No: 20608189
Basis for Eligibility for Registration: Type Certificate - CAR Standard 507.02 (1), 507.03 (3) - A212
Category: Aeroplane Max take-off weight: 1406.14 kgs
Engine: 1, Piston
Regional Office: Toronto Year Imported: 2003
Base of Operations: CANADA , Ontario, Toronto-Buttonville

Last Registered Owner Information

Name: Toronto Police Services Board
Trade Name Used Toronto Police Services
Care of Det. Burton #6569
Address: 2 Dyas Road
City: Toronto Province/State: Ontario
Postal Code: M3B 1V5 Country: CANADA
Region: Ontario
Mail Recipient: Yes

 

[I_10_92]

Shh.. Miller probably doesnt know about it Miller is looking to hack and slash stuff...

 

[Pyr8]

Okay, so Miller wouldn't let the City have a helicopter, but he let them have a fixed-wing aircraft?

I've heard an airplane used by MSS/Gangs & Guns for the better part of a year, but I had always figured it was a rental... I guess not.

2 Dyas Road is where the MSS base is. Very interesting.

Aircraft Information

Mark: C-FZRR
Common Name: Cessna Model Name: 206H
Serial No: 20608189
Basis for Eligibility for Registration: Type Certificate - CAR Standard 507.02 (1), 507.03 (3) - A212
Category: Aeroplane Max take-off weight: 1406.14 kgs
Engine: 1, Piston
Regional Office: Toronto Year Imported: 2003
Base of Operations: CANADA , Ontario, Toronto-Buttonville

Last Registered Owner Information

Name: Toronto Police Services Board
Trade Name Used Toronto Police Services
Care of Det. Burton #6569
Address: 2 Dyas Road
City: Toronto Province/State: Ontario
Postal Code: M3B 1V5 Country: CANADA
Region: Ontario
Mail Recipient: Yes

What Freq?
Never heard anything from TPS.

 

[exkalibur]

You likely won't hear anything from TPS. They work on the digital (and often encrypted) talkgroups on the TPS system.

 

[hypersight]

Since we are on the subject of MSS, does anybody know what the numbers represent for the conventional MSS channels? Eg. MSS 150, MSS 350, MSS 1050 etc...

 

[exkalibur]

Nothing really.

They have 150, 250, 350, etc... all up to 1050. Those are A1-A10, they have B1-B6, C1-C4 and D1-D5.

 

[hypersight]

Nothing really.

They have 150, 250, 350, etc... all up to 1050. Those are A1-A10, they have B1-B6, C1-C4 and D1-D5.

I see. I thought they had some kind of meaning because they don't look like normal channel numbers like ch1,ch2,ch3...etc

Are the "C" and "D" channels listed in the RR database? I can't seem to find them....or am I just blind today?

 

[exkalibur]

Naw, they aren't on there.

860.2125 110.9 Hz. A1 MSS 150
860.7375 110.9 Hz. A2 MSS 250
860.2375 110.9 Hz. A3 MSS 350
860.6875 110.9 Hz. A4 MSS 450
860.7125 110.9 Hz. A5 MSS 550
861.1625 110.9 Hz. A6 MSS 650
860.4125 110.9 Hz. A7 MSS 750
860.4375 110.9 Hz. A8 MSS 850
860.4625 110.9 Hz. A9 MSS 950
860.1625 110.9 Hz. AA MSS 1050
860.6625 110.9 Hz. B1 Investigative
860.9875 110.9 Hz. B2 Investigative
860.4875 110.9 Hz. B3 Investigative
860.9375 110.9 Hz. B4 Investigative
860.9125 110.9 Hz. B5 Investigative
860.1875 110.9 Hz. B6 Investigative
863.4875 110.9 Hz. C1 Hold Up Squad
863.6625 110.9 Hz. C2 Hold Up Squad
863.4625 110.9 Hz. C3 Intelligence
861.4125 110.9 Hz. C4 Intelligence
861.2375 110.9 Hz. C5 Intelligence
859.6625 110.9 Hz. D1 Morality
859.9125 110.9 Hz. D2 Morality
863.7125 110.9 Hz. D3 Morality
863.7375 110.9 Hz. D4 Morality

Some of those are also voice channels on surrounding trunked systems. B5 I think is a voice channel on the YRP system, so make sure you program the PL tones as well.

 

[mciupa]

Actually I found it on the Metro Area Quick Hop Toronto link:

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&ctid=4326

Scroll about halfway down the page and you'll see them listed under:
Toronto Police Service - Conventional Channels

 

[hypersight]

Actually I found it on the Metro Area Quick Hop Toronto link:

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&ctid=4326

Scroll about halfway down the page and you'll see them listed under:
Toronto Police Service - Conventional Channels

Yes I'm aware of that listing for the conventional channels, but the some of the channels that exkalibur just posted are not on there.

 

[hypersight]

Naw, they aren't on there.

860.2125 110.9 Hz. A1 MSS 150
860.7375 110.9 Hz. A2 MSS 250
860.2375 110.9 Hz. A3 MSS 350
860.6875 110.9 Hz. A4 MSS 450
860.7125 110.9 Hz. A5 MSS 550
861.1625 110.9 Hz. A6 MSS 650
860.4125 110.9 Hz. A7 MSS 750
860.4375 110.9 Hz. A8 MSS 850
860.4625 110.9 Hz. A9 MSS 950
860.1625 110.9 Hz. AA MSS 1050
860.6625 110.9 Hz. B1 Investigative
860.9875 110.9 Hz. B2 Investigative
860.4875 110.9 Hz. B3 Investigative
860.9375 110.9 Hz. B4 Investigative
860.9125 110.9 Hz. B5 Investigative
860.1875 110.9 Hz. B6 Investigative
863.4875 110.9 Hz. C1 Hold Up Squad
863.6625 110.9 Hz. C2 Hold Up Squad
863.4625 110.9 Hz. C3 Intelligence
861.4125 110.9 Hz. C4 Intelligence
861.2375 110.9 Hz. C5 Intelligence
859.6625 110.9 Hz. D1 Morality
859.9125 110.9 Hz. D2 Morality
863.7125 110.9 Hz. D3 Morality
863.7375 110.9 Hz. D4 Morality

Some of those are also voice channels on surrounding trunked systems. B5 I think is a voice channel on the YRP system, so make sure you program the PL tones as well.

Thanks for the info exkalibur!

 

[shifty646]

What does MSS satnd for and what does the unit do?

 

[exkalibur]

MSS is the "elite surveillance unit" of the Intelligence Bureau.

It stands for Mobile Support Services. MSS is a pretty generic term these days. Under the MSS "umbrella", you'll find:

Investigative Support Services
Mobile Support Services
Technical Support Services
Gangs & Guns Task Force
Toronto Drug Squad
Toronto Vice Squad

umong a few others.

Basically think of MSS as being long-term surveillance. The divisional MCU guys only have so many resources, once it becomes a long-term project, it goes to MSS. I've heard MSS channels active all over Ontario. I was camping in Algonquin a few years back and had heard MSS active on MSS650 (used a lot by intelligence) in Huntsville.

These frequencies can be used in "Long" or "Short" mode. Long = repeater, Short = Simplex.

 

[torontokris]

good info thanks excalibur...