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TP9900
- Thread starter pewpew45
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Our TP9900 demo kits arrived earlier this week. Got first one up and programmed; so far working good. Only issue is when switch to / from a DMR channel - it's about a 3 second "Please Wait" while the radio processor does it's magic to switch modes.
Oh cool, hopefully its a future bug fix regarding the DMR, not that its a big deal I suppose for most. Mine should be here Monday I believe..Interested to see how it works on the all band and supposedly for ham it works on 900 mhz which should be cool.
BigLebowski
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So far I am finding that analog and DMR can’t exist together in a zone. Pretty annoying. Hopefully this is a bug that will be corrected later.
Yes, they work just fine on 900 ham although the tri-band antenna isn’t rated for 900. The front end on my radios seem to be wide open on the VHF and UHF ham bands.
Yes, they work just fine on 900 ham although the tri-band antenna isn’t rated for 900. The front end on my radios seem to be wide open on the VHF and UHF ham bands.
That’s interesting because in the code plug I wrote up I have dmr, p25 and analog in the same zone. Grant it I haven’t written the plug to the radio but the software allowed it.
BigLebowski
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My version will not allow me to save a file with P25/DMR in the same zone or with analog/DMR in the same zone.
Granted, mine is a TP9800 with DMR but for software purposes it is a TP9900 so it shouldn’t matter.
BigLebowski
Member
I'm also curious when you write your file to yours (if it lets you) if it will scan when on a DMR channel. All my zones are set to In-Zone scan, and when in a DMR zone if I press the scan button I get a "Please Wait..." like it is switching modes, but it doesn't scan.
So here is the update... The radio will scan dmr talkgroups after a couple of seconds of "please wait" on the TP9900. Annoying part is I can set up a scan list with Analog/P25 and it scans those both at same time mixed with no issues. If I try to set up a DMR/Analog the CPS says I can't do it, basically for DMR you can only make a solely DMR scan list it would appear.
Also I can write to the radio with no issues a zone with mixed Analog, P25 and DMR on the TP9900. When switching to DMR channels I get the "please Wait" for couple seconds then it switches. It would appear like say a harris the radio is switching operating systems internally almost like it's two different radios. Other forums imply that this can't be fixed with a firmware upgrade if it is indeed setup like this. I hope they are wrong.
Other then that the radio works great and I love being able to have all bands, all modes, trunking and 900 ham all in one radio.
BigLebowski
Member
You gave me some ideas to try on mine, and I’m happy to say that once I removed the DMR channels from the in-zone scan list the software would let me save and write the file with analog, P25, and DMR in the same zone. Same for the DMR zone with analog.
I still can’t get it to scan DMR. On the DMR-only zone when I press scan it says “Please Wait…” but never actually scans. On my mixed P25/DMR/Analog zone if I press scan I briefly get the scan icon, then the radio shows “System Error” and after a few seconds reboots. This may just be a limitation of the TP9800 multi-protocol firmware right now.
A TP9800 with the DMR Conventional is NOT the same as a TP9900....
Firmware / Operation is much different. On a TP9900, I have DMR, P25 and Analog all in the same zone - and working fine.
BigLebowski
Member
I know it’s not the same. If you’d read the post immediately above you would see I have that working as well. The problem was having the DMR channels in the in-zone scan list.
So some bugs I have found so far with the TP9900... For DMR systems I have one for DMR ham and another for DMR non ham (business band). Each has a different DMR number, but even when TX on a non DMR profile TG it transmits my ham DMR ID...Tait is apparently aware of these and this should be a firmware update.
Second is no matter what settings I use on analog, with Signalling set to DTMF and analog section set to enable DTMF calling - I can not get the keypad to transmit DTMF tones. Not sure if this is on my side or it's another firmware update needed.
So far even though the manual says it can do analog and DMR in same scan list I have found it will only do DMR scan without any analog or P25 channels on the list. Hopefully a bug fix on the way.
What gets me is how Tait didn't make this radio able to scan Analog, P25 and DMR in the same scan list?? Literally Kenwood NX series, JVC VP8000 and I believe even the Bendix allows it. Hoping its a firmware fix as I believe on the TP9700 allows analog/DMR scan lists. Can't imagine Tait wasn't able to figure out what other companies have already figured out...
Second is no matter what settings I use on analog, with Signalling set to DTMF and analog section set to enable DTMF calling - I can not get the keypad to transmit DTMF tones. Not sure if this is on my side or it's another firmware update needed.
So far even though the manual says it can do analog and DMR in same scan list I have found it will only do DMR scan without any analog or P25 channels on the list. Hopefully a bug fix on the way.
What gets me is how Tait didn't make this radio able to scan Analog, P25 and DMR in the same scan list?? Literally Kenwood NX series, JVC VP8000 and I believe even the Bendix allows it. Hoping its a firmware fix as I believe on the TP9700 allows analog/DMR scan lists. Can't imagine Tait wasn't able to figure out what other companies have already figured out...
One thing I've found with the TP9900 so far that I can't wrap my head around.... Mixed mode.
You're supposed to be able to set a "Dual mode" profile with the TX set to analog, then switch between analog and P25. I can't get that to work no matter what I try.
What I'm trying to do is go from analog to P25 encrypted. When I set a button for encryption, it just gives the "boop" sound. It will turn encryption on and off when a channel is set specifically to P25, but the radio is supposed to switch from analog to P25.
Is there a menu item or something in the programming I'm overlooking? Is there another function key that is used to change from analog to P25? Because I can't find it if there is. And to concur with previous posters, I can only scan P25/analog or analog/DMR together. Can't do all 3, which is a bummer.
If anyone has some insight, that would be great.
You're supposed to be able to set a "Dual mode" profile with the TX set to analog, then switch between analog and P25. I can't get that to work no matter what I try.
What I'm trying to do is go from analog to P25 encrypted. When I set a button for encryption, it just gives the "boop" sound. It will turn encryption on and off when a channel is set specifically to P25, but the radio is supposed to switch from analog to P25.
Is there a menu item or something in the programming I'm overlooking? Is there another function key that is used to change from analog to P25? Because I can't find it if there is. And to concur with previous posters, I can only scan P25/analog or analog/DMR together. Can't do all 3, which is a bummer.
If anyone has some insight, that would be great.
Have you tried using the 900mhz ham band?
The specs show transmit 896-941MHz and receive 935-941MHz .
Am I missing something, or would you not be able to do simplex on 900? also my local repeater falls outside that receive range.
I can confirm the TP9900 works just fine in 900 MHz Ham band for both repeaters and simplex. It gives a box saying something to the effect of it might not work as expected, but I have two zones of both 900 analog and 900 P25 that work perfect without any mods.
Excellent, thank you.
I'm in the process of acquiring one. This is my first Tait radio. Is the programming software easy to use? I haven't found a lot information on them.
BigLebowski
Member
It’s not terrible, but it does have a pretty major learning curve. The way scan works is the biggest issue for me personally as well as everyone I’ve demoed these to.
As far as 900 ham as stated above it works fine but if you are going to be using it a lot I would buy a dedicated 900 antenna as the provided V/U/7-8 isn’t technically rated for it.
Agree, they definitely need to tweak some things with the way they do scan if they want to be a competitor.
