If it's like the other GRE/Whistler SW you click on one entry then "ctrl + a" and then click on the column you want to modify.
TRX-1 programming software
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If it's like the other GRE/Whistler SW you click on one entry then "ctrl + a" and then click on the column you want to modify.
sibbley
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It's true. You learn something new every day. I didn't know about that.
Thank you guys.
I just figured out how to arrange all my channels into the order I want them in........just put a number in front of every damn channel or talkgroup and sort alphabetically.........really fun if you want to add a new channel between 112 and 113, you just have to change the numbers of 113-2987 to one digit more, one at a time.....yay, fun.
So seriously, these EZ Scan garbage is and will be the ONLY programming solution? Christ Wendy, put a damn way to move items up and down at least, this is a serious flaw IMHO, how would you like your cable TV channels to not be able to sort numerically for instance! :-(
Paul
So seriously, these EZ Scan garbage is and will be the ONLY programming solution? Christ Wendy, put a damn way to move items up and down at least, this is a serious flaw IMHO, how would you like your cable TV channels to not be able to sort numerically for instance! :-(
Paul
I realize this is an old thread but I wanted to go on record with the following comments. I am a paying member of RR. I am an owner of a TRX2. I am also totally blind. The stance taken by the owner of this web site and Whistler Group is clearly discriminatory. Essentialy they have decided that blind users have no right to purchase or use Whistler Group scanners. They have software that breaks all rules related to accessibility. They prevent software authors such as Mike, creator of PSR-edit 500 from providing access to blind users. I have a great scanner but I can't program it. I can't import or control my scanlists. Blind organizations have in the past found grounds for legal action when it comes to accessibility issues related to web sites as well as equipment. Radio Reference and Whistler Group should be held accountable for practicing obvious discrimination. Since all of the data used in my scanner comes from RR and since I already pay for access to that same data as a member of this site I just can't understand the narrow sighted stance taken by people who should know better. I guess there are options. Stop supporting RR and hack Whistler Group products, then build a new database. For people who can see this might seem trivial. I ask all of you just how you would feel if you had to spend thousands of extra dollars just to use your computer? How you you would feel if not one single product you bought could be taken on faith as to your ability to use it? How you would feel if every single piece of software had to be tested to make sure you could even install it much less use it? How you would feel if of hat software you found more than 95% was so completely unusable that you couldn't even get past the installation screens? How you would feel that in cases where you bought software you found that it doesn't work with your screen reader but you could not return it? I am far from a novice in the testing and support of accessibility. I have more than 35 years of beta testing and experience with adaptive technology. Whistler Group and Radio Reference are guilty of ignorent and discriminatory behavior at best. Having paid my money for a product I have an expectation that it work and that I can in fact be the person who makes it operate to meet the purpose for which it was purchased. Does this expectation require the application of legal means or will common sense win the day?
I'm not sure how your useability issues with Whistler's software is RR's fault? Could you clarify?
As far as I know, Mike is free to access the RR database. He's already doing this and other software authors are as well.
If there's something preventing him from programming a Whistler scanner, that's between him and Whistler.
As far as I know, Mike is free to access the RR database. He's already doing this and other software authors are as well.
If there's something preventing him from programming a Whistler scanner, that's between him and Whistler.
What is preventing him and others is referenced multiple times in this thread and many others. RR and Whistler got together and decided that no information would be released to third party developers. The excuse was the protection of RR data as used by Whistler. So at present no third party applications can program the TRX1 and 2 scanners. It makes the scanner unusagle to me other than via sighted help. So yes, it is RR and Whistler at fault. Yes even if they release the info there is no promise that Mike or others will in fact create an accessible application but since Mike actually went the extra mile for blind users I thought maybe he could do it again. The others in the field have repeatedly ignored accessibility but there is always a chance. Not however when the data provider and the manufacturer decide a market segment is less deserving than others. SO why buy the scanner? Well it is the only one that meets my needs related to active systems in my area and because other than software written by novice programmers it has the potential to be a great product.
ka3jjz
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There is a fault with your assumption. Whistler's decision not to release their programming protocols for third party development is their decision alone. AFAIK RR has nothing to do with it (someone can clarify that). RR only provides the data through a customized web interface. Therefore pointing the finger at RR in this instance is both unwarranted and clearly unjustified.
Mike
Mike
sparklehorse
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I'm just tossing in another plea for Whistler to re-think the EZ-Scan software. I also like my new TRX-2, but the software is frankly medieval. The inability to re-organize your programming and assign channel (object) numbers as you see fit is simply inexcusable. It makes navigating to a channel on this radio painful. If like me you have 8 TSYS systems, each with a hundred talkgroups or more, and another 2500 conventional channels, you need to have serious organizational flexibility. In the past 15 years I have used just about every radio programming software available. All have their quirks. All have a learning curve. But all have allowed me to structure my radio the way I want. Except EZ-Scan. Yesterday I spent 3 hours just trying to move 4 scan lists up from positions 91-94 to 01-04, and move the rest down. What a ridiculous chore that was. Can we please get some reasonable functionality added to this program Whistler? And if you will not do it, please allow third party developers to have a shot at it. I will not purchase another of your radios until this programming issue is resolved. Period.
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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This is not an excuse for Whistler but EZScan has been basically the same (except updates whistler did from comments from users like yourself) since it was first introduced by GRE almost 10 years ago. It has always worked differently with the Object orientated system. Its been explained a few times on several threads how it works. Using your example of moving scan lists around it could have been less than 5 minutes to move those scan lists. From what you said you had 4 Scan lists ( Scanlist 91 to ScanList 94) with some number of objects in each one, correct? All you had to do was go to the scan list tab, selected Scan list 91, highlighted the objects in that scan list and clicked on the "scan list" column unchecked 91 and checked 1. Repeated for the other 3 scanlists.
All you had to do was go to the scan list tab, selected Scan list 91, highlighted the objects in that scan list and clicked on the "scan list" column unchecked 91 and checked 1. Repeated for the other 3 scanlists.
Unless you have objects with multiple scanlist assignments. Then you would have to go to each unique scanlist selection to do the switch, which can be a pain.
Also, he was saying he had to move #1 to #5, #2 to #6, etc. all the way up in order to free up the space.
When I program, I leave open scanlists throughout. And I use this productively. I skip three in a row. On the first and second, leave the scanlist name empty. On the middle, label it as a header for the next set of scanlists. This way, you have some flexibility should you need to reorganize later, and you have a nice header to help you keep your head on straight.
Drag and drop flexibility for scanlists, v-scanner folder, etc. should be a basic.
Let's face it, though, unless potential customers are astute enough to read about these things beforehand, and each one of them contacts the company to let them know why they didn't buy the product, any improvements are going to be slow and gradual.
That said, I very much appreciate what improvements have been made this year. I assume fixes such as having the correct tab order are a must to begin any sort of accessibility for the blind.
sparklehorse
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This is not an excuse for Whistler but EZScan has been basically the same (except updates whistler did from comments from users like yourself) since it was first introduced by GRE almost 10 years ago. It has always worked differently with the Object orientated system. Its been explained a few times on several threads how it works. Using your example of moving scan lists around it could have been less than 5 minutes to move those scan lists. From what you said you had 4 Scan lists ( Scanlist 91 to ScanList 94) with some number of objects in each one, correct? All you had to do was go to the scan list tab, selected Scan list 91, highlighted the objects in that scan list and clicked on the "scan list" column unchecked 91 and checked 1. Repeated for the other 3 scanlists.
As Aggie surmised, my scan lists each contain dozens of objects, and each of those objects is also a member of several other scan lists, sometimes many others, so it is not as simple as selecting the contents of a scan list and re-assigning everything from 91 to 1. And yes, all the lists had to be moved, not just the four. I'm very familiar with object oriented programming, I've been using Win500 for years. But that software works very, very well. It allows me to assign each object an ID that makes sense to me, like say, 801 for the first object in Scan List 8. I punch in 801 on my WS1064, hit enter, and I'm there. This business of 'browsing' by first tabbing thru your many scan lists, then hunting thru that list to find your one important channel, which may be at the bottom due to its Talkgroup ID, is just nutty. If it's been this way for 10 years, then it's high time to evolve. Evolve or let someone else take a crack at it. Come on Whistler, you CAN do better!
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Thank you for educating those of us still on the fence about these scanners. It sounds like they took several major steps backwards between the PSR-500/Pro-106/WS1040 line and the PSR-800/WS1080/WS1088/TRX-1 line, and have been improving all the wrong features ever since. That's a real shame, but my patience is worn out. Time to get up to speed on what Uniden has to offer...
SOFA_KING
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Many, including me, have been saying this software sucks for a long time now. I believe most of us like to be very organized about our programming. I do, but just adding something where I want it becomes nearly impossible. And the software is dog slow! Cut, copy, insert and paste needs to be unlocked.
But the one thing that really burned me was the stupid DMR check box. What next? An NXDN check box? There was no need to separate any mode with a check box! Choices should be analog, digital, or all modes. Simple!
Even though I prefer the sound of my TRX-2 over my Uniden scanners, I just can't be bothered with the programming hassle on the Whistler scanners, so I end up doing most of everything new and search related with my Uniden 536. The locked down, dog slow, software and backward approach to programming make it very unpleasant to edit anything. It is way past time to replace that POS software with something truly flexible, fast and user friendly. Guaranteed Whistler would sell more scanners if the software was what most people wanted and expected. This should have been done years ago. Lots of lost sales in all that time.
Phil
But the one thing that really burned me was the stupid DMR check box. What next? An NXDN check box? There was no need to separate any mode with a check box! Choices should be analog, digital, or all modes. Simple!
Even though I prefer the sound of my TRX-2 over my Uniden scanners, I just can't be bothered with the programming hassle on the Whistler scanners, so I end up doing most of everything new and search related with my Uniden 536. The locked down, dog slow, software and backward approach to programming make it very unpleasant to edit anything. It is way past time to replace that POS software with something truly flexible, fast and user friendly. Guaranteed Whistler would sell more scanners if the software was what most people wanted and expected. This should have been done years ago. Lots of lost sales in all that time.
Phil
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I guess this applies to any product; there are those that like it, those that hate it and then those that complain ( some without any offers/suggestions for improvements - - "it sucks" for example).
A company could offer a goose that lays golden eggs and some would like it, some would hate eggs, others would complain about the color shade of gold. Can't please everyone.
A company could offer a goose that lays golden eggs and some would like it, some would hate eggs, others would complain about the color shade of gold. Can't please everyone.
I've read on here that some users created their scan lists in Excel, set the order they wanted them in and then imported the list into EZScan. Have any of you that are having issues with moving/renaming scan lists tried doing it this way?
sibbley
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This is the best way to setup your scanlists the way you want them. It's a little more work, but worth the effort IMHO. This is the only way I use to program my conventional scanlists.
Ed6698
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I have been using EZScan since the WS1080 and 1095 have come out, IMO the software is just fine.
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No that would make them have to pay Microsoft for Office
Keeping the base data in a spreadsheet or database other than EZ Scan is by far the best option. The drawback is you still have to set some settings in EZ Scan, such as enabling recording and all of the trunked system information.
But if you are using primarily external software to program your radio, well...
But if you are using primarily external software to program your radio, well...
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