CanesFan95
Analog already is interoperable.
Wasn't it years ago that range was hopping with trunking activity? Now it's dead and only 850 - 860 is active. It used to be everything from 850 through like 868 had stuff. So what happened?
What Ever Happened To 860-869 MHz?
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techman210
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Hopefully someone told him about that pandemic thing.
And Obama no longer being the POTUS.
And Obama no longer being the POTUS.
mmckenna
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Yeah, Rebanding. Everything was shifted down 15MHz to clear out room for
NexTel is gone, now
Worlds Biggest Charlie Foxtrot, if you asked me. About 15 years of everyone running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Billions of dollars spent, lots of public safety users inconvenienced, and Motorola walked away the winner.
I did my rebanding back in 2008. We finally closed out the project 2 years ago. It took them that long to settle up the mess.
CanesFan95
Analog already is interoperable.
I think I remember this now. Wasn't that the whole kerfuffle where this company "NEXTEL" was basically reckless, obnoxious, and inconsiderate and they basically went crazy and put up towers everywhere transmitting insane amounts of power that interfered with everyone and screwed up the whole spectrum?
mmckenna
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Essentially, yes.
However, FCC played it's usual role.
But, water under the bridge.
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Geez that mess;
Just prior to the announcement of the "800 MHz Consensus Plan", the lobbying effort that created the 800 MHz rebanding "industry", I was directly involved with the NEXTEL problem on a brand new simulcast NPSPAC system in Florida. As soon as the system was activated we found we had severe localized interference. We, the Client and myself, called a meeting with NEXTEL to develop an immediate resolution plan. But it was not forthcoming. Morgan O'Brien showed up at the meeting with his spectrum drawing. I immediately realized this was less a fix for Public Safety and more a grab by NEXTEL for contiguous spectrum for CDMA. I am shocked if they now Sprint, are not using the spectrum block. It should be handed back to FCC.
Just prior to the announcement of the "800 MHz Consensus Plan", the lobbying effort that created the 800 MHz rebanding "industry", I was directly involved with the NEXTEL problem on a brand new simulcast NPSPAC system in Florida. As soon as the system was activated we found we had severe localized interference. We, the Client and myself, called a meeting with NEXTEL to develop an immediate resolution plan. But it was not forthcoming. Morgan O'Brien showed up at the meeting with his spectrum drawing. I immediately realized this was less a fix for Public Safety and more a grab by NEXTEL for contiguous spectrum for CDMA. I am shocked if they now Sprint, are not using the spectrum block. It should be handed back to FCC.
2005. Obama wasn't even president elect yet.
CanesFan95
Analog already is interoperable.
Usual role? What's that?
CanesFan95
Analog already is interoperable.
Obviously you didn't read the link in post #2...
Whatever. LOL. Yes I did read it.
mmckenna
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FCC has a long history of selling out their decision making to the company with the most money.
Public safety had no money to influence the outcome.
NexTel (and probably Motorola) did.
RFI-EMI-GUY nailed it. Sprint won big with a big slice of spectrum. While the rebanding exercise was bigly expensive, Sprint got a big wad of spectrum for pennies on the dollar.
"Funny" how AT&T was begging the government for spectrum. So they first took TV channels 52 to 69 and now have taken channels 38 to 51. All so they could auction off the spectrum. Key parts had no (reasonable) bidders and I don't think AT&T bought a thing.
Not only is there the 860-869 spectrum, there is also the T band. I agree that TV (no longer) needs all that space, but I think most of this spectrum they "reclaimed" is not being used to its potential.
mmckenna
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FCC = Federal Cash Cow. When ever there is money needed, the FCC sells off big blocks of spectrum. They've pulled some stupid stunts in the past, and are continuing to do it:
Ligado and their stupid plan that may impact GPS. Their solution, new GPS devices should have additional filtering. Let all the old GPS units take the interference, risk lives, and they'll get replaced by attrition.
900MHz spectrum grab by Anterix. Buy up 900MHz LMR licenses. Force the rest out. Get the FCC to change rules to make it into yet another LTE band for Anterix nationwide, you know, because we don't already have enough LTE spectrum.
It will continue. T-Band was actually a bit of a surprise. While we all knew it was a stupid move, the only thing that saved it was because none of the big companies wanted/needed that slice of spectrum. If they had, this would have turned out a lot different.
CanesFan95
Analog already is interoperable.
Is this so-called "T-Band" 470 - 512 MHz? I've always wondered why that whole chunk of frequencies is so dead while 450 - 466 is jam cram packed bursting at the seems which makes no sense.
techman210
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T-Band is only active in certain metropolitan areas.
wiki.radioreference.com
UHF-T Band - The RadioReference Wiki
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And no radio systems were even rebanded then yet. That wasn't the point.
I know, and Obama in your earlier post was?
2005 was the year (June, iirc) that rebanding started in some markets, which is in line with what the OP was asking about. I do hope that someone did tell the OP about the pandemic, tho.
It’s easy to look at the 800 rebanding history when reviewing the rebanding news stories updates.
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