Worcester PD Scanning

[cadbob]

Hi All, I have my WS1065 all Set for the Convental Scanning, but for the life of me can not get it to scan worcester City PD. I tried setting to P25 Auto, 800mhz, vhf/uhf, and LTR. I attached the PSREdit500 Bin File. I imported list from here and attached my Central Mass Channel List to this thread. Hope it is ok

 

[ecps92]

Worcester [City of] is a P25 TRS and you are best to program it for trunking, keep in mind some of Worcesters TG's are Phase II and only can be heard with a Phase II scanner

Hi All, I have my WS1065 all Set for the Convental Scanning, but for the life of me can not get it to scan worcester City PD. I tried setting to P25 Auto, 800mhz, vhf/uhf, and LTR. I attached the PSREdit500 Bin File. I imported list from here and attached my Central Mass Channel List to this thread. Hope it is ok

 

[cadbob]

Yes I did , I think program it with Trunking, New to Scanner and All the Terms but reading and hopefully learning.

 

[garys]

From the screen shot you attached, it looks like you only programmed the control channels. It's been a while since I've had a Pro197/PSR600/WS 10, but as I recall it doesn't do Control Channel only trunking. Try programming in all of the channels and see if that works.

 

[ecps92]

Good Start, and the 1065 is the same as the 600, for programing, so the Control [All 4] channels are all you need.
But it will not do Phase II [only Phase I TGs]

Now the other issues is your Location [update your profile] Are you in/around aka Near Worcester [or too far away]
as the system is designed for Worcester coverage Only.

the other issue is experiment with your antenna, this is a simulcast system where all towers transmit at the same time.
sometimes smaller the antenna the better, or even moving an inch and one good trick was go with a paperclip

I do see you started a similar thread at ScanNew England...

Yes I did , I think program it with Trunking, New to Scanner and All the Terms but reading and hopefully learning.

 

[cadbob]

Hi Yes, I'm In Millbury so I dont think it would be 2 far for WPD?
Figured I would cross post as I downloaded list here, but actually has to do with our area which is on the other forum! LOL Reaching! LOL

 

[ecps92]

You should be good [update your RR profile, to indicate Millbury, it will help anyone else in the future]
Now as to how/what you are hearing, go into SEARCH mode and see how well you decode the Control Channel [hold on it]

You may need to do some adjusting of your antenna [YMMV]

Hi Yes, I'm In Millbury so I dont think it would be 2 far for WPD?
Figured I would cross post as I downloaded list here, but actually has to do with our area which is on the other forum! LOL Reaching! LOL

 

[garys]

One other thing to consider. A friend of mine has a Pro 106 and has been trying to program it for he CoMIRS 700Mhz site in Boston. Like Worcester, it has a mix of Phase 1 and 2 TGs. He is having the same issue you are. He can't receive anything at all. He lives in Boston and signal strength is not an issue.

I don't know if there is some difference in the data stream between Phase 1 only systems and Phase 1/2 systems.

He has had no problem with the Cambridge or MassPort systems which are both Phase 1.

Maybe for some reason the GRE/RS/Whistler scanners aren't capable of decoding the data stream.

 

[cadbob]

I might try messing with the settings I circled here "Off" dont seem to work so that leaves "ROAM" and "STAT"
I guess P25 Auto is the setting I want for WPD?

 

[Nascar18]

I would put the CC 1. 858.1375 & 2, 857.2625 in the list. Then turn Multi Site Mode: ON and then chose STAT and Check All CC: Yes. Another thing I would lock out the Wildcard!!

 

[cadbob]

I would put the CC 1. 858.1375 & 2, 857.2625 in the list. Then turn Multi Site Mode: ON and then chose STAT and Check All CC: Yes. Another thing I would lock out the Wildcard!!

Thank you Trying it now, not sure how to lock out wild card thou?

 

[ecps92]

my [GRE600 and [RS Pro652] work fine on the CoMIRS 700 , once the antenna was properly aligned to handle the simulcast issues, the only TG's I would/do not get are the Phase II

I'm going for [right now] he is having the simulcast issues and needs to adjust [decrease his antenna]

One other thing to consider. A friend of mine has a Pro 106 and has been trying to program it for he CoMIRS 700Mhz site in Boston. Like Worcester, it has a mix of Phase 1 and 2 TGs. He is having the same issue you are. He can't receive anything at all. He lives in Boston and signal strength is not an issue.

I don't know if there is some difference in the data stream between Phase 1 only systems and Phase 1/2 systems.

He has had no problem with the Cambridge or MassPort systems which are both Phase 1.

Maybe for some reason the GRE/RS/Whistler scanners aren't capable of decoding the data stream.

 

[Nascar18]

Just put the Control Channels 1 & 2 in the frequency list, not all of the system frequencies. I would also put 2 in the CC Dwell box. Learn to use the scanner you can LOCK OUT the Wildcard that way!

 

[garys]

That's a good thought. He never mentioned what he was using for an antenna. I'll mention it to him. I never had any problems with my 536, so I've never given it that much consideration.

my [GRE600 and [RS Pro652] work fine on the CoMIRS 700 , once the antenna was properly aligned to handle the simulcast issues, the only TG's I would/do not get are the Phase II

I'm going for [right now] he is having the simulcast issues and needs to adjust [decrease his antenna]

 

[cadbob]

I Opened the Box for my WS1065 Christmas Day, up until 12-25, never knew a lick about scanners other than seeing the old crystal type scanners in peoples houses, still learning all the terms and radio jargon. lol

 

[Nascar18]

Garys,
I would suggest adding the Dwell to 20 on his Pro 106 for that system. I find if I don't have my dwell at 20 for the RISCON East I don't receive the system the same. I find the P-25 systems use the dwell time better.

 

[garys]

Thanks, I will mention all of this to him.

 

[garys]

I'm also going to suggest that he try turning on the attenuator. When we had PSR600 scanners in the ambulances, I had to turn on attenuation for the MSP 800 analog system because it became overloaded in areas close to where he lives.