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Thanks Bill, I programmed my Walkie Talkie with the 1050 code and it worked just fine. I need to figure out how to make the tone last longer, its a short beep but it will do if I can't figure that out. Also when I hit the monitor button is does not open up. But I can fix that by making another zone just for the weather alerts.
 

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This looks like it should work fine. You don't specifically need a QCII List for a "Receive Only" personality such as you'd want to setup for your
1050 Hz NOAA alerting function, but CPS will error out if you don't select a list even if you haven't checked any of the "Encode" options or have
the personality set to receive only.

Unless you have a way to generate an on-channel signal modulated with a 1050 Hz tone to test your programming, you'll have to wait for the
next scheduled weekly test or for an official alert being broadcast in your area!

Good luck!

Bill
NWS did their weekly test today and the radio worked just fine. Is there a timer or any setting that you can set to reset the radio back to the muted state, say after 1 minute of broadcasting, go back to muted state? Also pushing the monitor button is not opening up the channel.
 

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NWS did their weekly test today and the radio worked just fine. Is there a timer or any setting that you can set to reset the radio back to the muted state, say after 1 minute of broadcasting, go back to muted state? Also pushing the monitor button is not opening up the channel.

If I recall correctly, under Conventional>Quik-Call II>Quick-Call II System>Advanced there's a setting for Auto Reset Time, which will mute the radio automatically after the selected time (0 to 255 seconds).

I'd have to look at one of our codeplugs to verify how I set that up, but don't have any with me; ours reset automatically after 90 seconds.
 

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If I recall correctly, under Conventional>Quik-Call II>Quick-Call II System>Advanced there's a setting for Auto Reset Time, which will mute the radio automatically after the selected time (0 to 255 seconds).

I'd have to look at one of our codeplugs to verify how I set that up, but don't have any with me; ours reset automatically after 90 seconds.
OK, I will look for that.
 

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NWS did their weekly test today and the radio worked just fine. Is there a timer or any setting that you can set to reset the radio back to the muted state, say after 1 minute of broadcasting, go back to muted state? Also pushing the monitor button is not opening up the channel.

The CPS configuration and operational description referenced in my original post (#14) were pulled from an XTS5000 FPP that works exactly
as it was described. I was curious as to why the "Monitor" button didn't work identically on your XTL5000 and took a few minutes to setup and test this on XTL5000. Sure enough, the mobile doesn’t work the same as the portable even though they are on identical firmware versions.

I found a couple of alternate configurations, one of them comes close mimicking the XTS5000 whereby you can operate the monitor button to facilitate listening to the NOAA broadcasts, but that has a shortcoming in that you can't directly affect a reset following an alert with a press of
the monitor button as you can with with the XTS5000.

This configuration involves changing the Conventional Personality QCII Unmute Type to "OR" while at the same time you option the NOAA frequency(s) populated in the Zone Channel Assignment for PL squelch. Of course, NOAA den’s use PL, but this configuration will keep the receiver muted until a 1050 Hz alert tone is transmitted. The caveat is that you will have to toggle the mode (channel) selector to another
channel and back following an alert to reset the decoder.

I haven't figured out why the auto reset isn't working and will post an update if/when there's new information as I continue to look into
the XTL5000 in this regard. The screen captures below depict the changes described in the above text.

Conventional Personality

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Zone Channel Assignment

Zone Channel Assignment.png
 

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The CPS configuration and operational description referenced in my original post (#14) were pulled from an XTS5000 FPP that works exactly
as it was described. I was curious as to why the "Monitor" button didn't work identically on your XTL5000 and took a few minutes to setup and test this on XTL5000. Sure enough, the mobile doesn’t work the same as the portable even though they are on identical firmware versions.

I found a couple of alternate configurations, one of them comes close mimicking the XTS5000 whereby you can operate the monitor button to facilitate listening to the NOAA broadcasts, but that has a shortcoming in that you can't directly affect a reset following an alert with a press of
the monitor button as you can with with the XTS5000.

This configuration involves changing the Conventional Personality QCII Unmute Type to "OR" while at the same time you option the NOAA frequency(s) populated in the Zone Channel Assignment for PL squelch. Of course, NOAA den’s use PL, but this configuration will keep the receiver muted until a 1050 Hz alert tone is transmitted. The caveat is that you will have to toggle the mode (channel) selector to another
channel and back following an alert to reset the decoder.

I haven't figured out why the auto reset isn't working and will post an update if/when there's new information as I continue to look into
the XTL5000 in this regard. The screen captures below depict the changes described in the above text.

Conventional Personality

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Zone Channel Assignment

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OK Thanks for all your help again. I have not tried to set it up on the XTS5000, house has a metal roof and it will not receive the weather unless you go outside or use a outside antenna.
 

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Update: I just ran some tests with the XTS5000 and found that the Auto Reset (Auto -or- Auto w / Carr) does work, but only if the carrier
drops. This explains why this option doesn't work for NOAA weather alerting because of the continuous carrier

Now to try and figure out the monitor function differences between the two radios.

Bill
 

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Update: I just ran some tests with the XTS5000 and found that the Auto Reset (Auto -or- Auto w / Carr) does work, but only if the carrier
drops. This explains why this option doesn't work for NOAA weather alerting because of the continuous carrier

Now to try and figure out the monitor function differences between the two radios.

Bill
OK I was afraid of that
 

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This looks like it should work fine. You don't specifically need a QCII List for a "Receive Only" personality such as you'd want to setup for your
1050 Hz NOAA alerting function, but CPS will error out if you don't select a list even if you haven't checked any of the "Encode" options or have
the personality set to receive only.

Unless you have a way to generate an on-channel signal modulated with a 1050 Hz tone to test your programming, you'll have to wait for the
next scheduled weekly test or for an official alert being broadcast in your area!

Good luck!

Bill
Everything is working fine as long as I just have one WX channel programmed in. When I add the other 6 WX channels in it does not. I created personalities for each channel and a separate zone and scan list and checked mix vote scanning. Really just guessing how to set up mixed vote scanning. Am I correct in assuming that if it is set up right, you would simply select that zone, turn on scan, and it should scan all 7 WX channels and land on the strongest, and open up the squelch when an alert is sent out.
 

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Is your radio flashed with Q387 - Conventional Voting Scan? If so, and it's your intent is to scan for the strongest WX signal while awaiting to
receive a weather alert, then you really want to create a conventional voting scan list. Keep in mind that this scan list should only contain weather channels (stations) that are designated to alert for your county.

In my case, there are four NOAA weather stations (not all of them located in my county) that are designated to broadcast alerts to my county.
Consult the NOAA County Coverage Map (List) for your state that will contain an index listing what station(s) are designated to cover your county that will be identified with identical SAME codes.

I have three of my radios setup this way that work perfectly! There is also no reason that you can't create additional voting scan lists to cover other areas that would be arranged similarly to ensure alerting when traveling into those areas away from home.
 
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Time is money. Just spend the $20-30 and buy a dedicated weather alert radio with S.A.M.E. and be done with it. :)

That's good advice if you expect to use a dedicated weather alert radio in fairly close proximity to the NOAA weather station.
However, these cheap devices aren’t known to have the best receivers. In my case, the closest station is 16.5 miles away while the next
closest station that alerts my area is 32 miles away, and whereby I've found the dedicated weather radios are not all that reliable.
 

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Is your radio flashed with Q387 - Conventional Voting Scan? If so, and it's your intent is to scan for the strongest WX signal while awaiting to
receive an weather alert, then you really want to create a conventional voting scan list. Keep in mind that this scan list should only contain weather channels (stations) that are designated to alert for your county.

In my case, there are four NOAA weather stations (not all of them located in my county) that are designated to broadcast alerts to my county.
Consult the NOAA County Coverage Map (List) for your state that will contain an index listing what station(s) are designated to cover your county that will be identified with identical SAME codes.

I have three of my radios setup this way that work perfectly! There is also no reason that you can't create additional voting scan lists to cover other areas that would be arranged similarly to ensure alerting when traveling into those areas away from home.
 

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I have a weather radio at home programmed with the same codes and like you I live in the middle of all three. I travel alot and was hoping to program my mobile to lock onto the strongest station and receive an alert while traveling. I have attached a copy of the flash code of my radio and I don't see Q387 so I guess I will not be able to do this. I tried to set it up and it works perfect with just one weather channel programmed in the scan list which is separate from the others but if you add a second channel neither channel will receive alerts. I programmed a portable to send the tone.
 

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I have a weather radio at home programmed with the same codes and like you I live in the middle of all three. I travel alot and was hoping to program my mobile to lock onto the strongest station and receive an alert while traveling. I have attached a copy of the flash code of my radio and I don't see Q387 so I guess I will not be able to do this. I tried to set it up and it works perfect with just one weather channel programmed in the scan list which is separate from the others but if you add a second channel neither channel will receive alerts. I programmed a portable to send the tone.
G387 is the mobile equivalent to the Q387 in the portable.

I'm not trying to be rude when I say this, but what you're attempting is a very hacky solution that the radio was never meant to do. If you manage to get it working at all, consider that a small victory.
 

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G387 is the mobile equivalent to the Q387 in the portable.

I'm not trying to be rude when I say this, but what you're attempting is a very hacky solution that the radio was never meant to do. If you manage to get it working at all, consider that a small victory.
OK, sounds like just need to give up on it. I am in the early learning stages of learning how to program this radio and I have several other programming issues I am trying to figure out so if this one is not possible, I will move on to the next. I am determined not to let this radio whip me so it helps to know if something is not possible. Thanks
 
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